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Posted on 4/27/19 at 9:53 am to
Posted by FearlessFreep
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 9:53 am to
Glad this thread got bumped so I could upvote THRILLHO's take:
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Trump was LARGELY elected on his hard immigration stance :cue you'vegottogoback gif: and has LARGELY failed. I'm not the one that you should be angry with for pointing that out. He had a "republican" house AND senate for two years, and didn't make any hard pushes on immigration/wall until he had a commie House to fight him.
Sums it up pretty succinctly
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:01 am to
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He had a "republican" house


With a spineless leader. Did Paul Ryan ever present a proposal for a vote on the border crisis?
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:02 am to
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Glad this thread got bumped so I could upvote THRILLHO's take:
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Trump was LARGELY elected on his hard immigration stance :cue you'vegottogoback gif: and has LARGELY failed. I'm not the one that you should be angry with for pointing that out. He had a "republican" house AND senate for two years, and didn't make any hard pushes on immigration/wall until he had a commie House to fight him.
Sums it up pretty succinctly


Wat wat?? Do you have a timeline of Trump immigration reform proposals handy by chance? None of the above makes a lick of sense.
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:09 am to
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Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:13 am to
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by tide06


My sentiments exactly.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 11:13 am to
Trump laid out a sensible immigration plan in his first SOTU address, back when he had clear majorities in both halls of Congress. To my knowledge, no actual legislation was introduced.

Summarized a couple of months ago in this post.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 11:33 am to
And I quote your own words:

"and his own party's Speaker refused to bring forward any proposed legislation."

So yes, he mounted a very serious and "sensible comprehensive" effort for reform and as you said...RINO Paul Ryan, who reigned over the entire legislative process in the House denied that sensible and comprehensive effort on Trump's part to the floor for a vote.

I surmise the "reversed stance" you mention was his sensible effort to negotiate some more, but the RINOs and their buddy Dems were bound and determined to deny him any apparent victory whatsoever. The only way it was going to be was their way, and that isnt much of a negotiation. And again, why would one have to negotiate a sensible and comprehensive proposal in the first place?
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