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If There Has Ever Been A Litmus Test For Why Democracies Only Last
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:45 am
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:45 am
2-3 hundred years, the responses to this tariff debacle are it.
The gap between the degree of basic economic understanding and the certainty with which populists blindly support these tariffs and their rollout is staggering.
How did the United States make it this far?
The gap between the degree of basic economic understanding and the certainty with which populists blindly support these tariffs and their rollout is staggering.
How did the United States make it this far?
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:47 am to wackatimesthree
It’s just that politics has become tribal.
If the Dems rolled this out, the board would be in Chernobyl Melt mode.
But since it was Trump and the board is Trump friendly, it’s all “nothing to see here” attitudes.
If the Dems rolled this out, the board would be in Chernobyl Melt mode.
But since it was Trump and the board is Trump friendly, it’s all “nothing to see here” attitudes.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:48 am to BeeFense5
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It’s just that politics has become tribal.
If the Dems rolled this out, the board would be in Chernobyl Melt mode.
But since it was Trump and the board is Trump friendly, it’s all “nothing to see here” attitudes.
It's that populism has taken over both parties, which has made it blindly tribal.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:49 am to wackatimesthree
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wackatimesthree
So you don't believe in retaliatory tariffs?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:51 am to wackatimesthree
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2-3 hundred years, the responses to this tariff debacle are it.
The gap between the degree of basic economic understanding and the certainty with which populists blindly support these tariffs and their rollout is staggering.
How did the United States make it this far?
Profound insight, great OP to spur discussion.
There's not one sensible person who would disagree it's America First Nationalism/Populism that has put the US on the glide slope of managed decline along with racking up $37 trillion of US debt. If Trump would get the hell out of the way the Globalists could fix the US debt spiral and prevent the economic and financial collapse of our constitutional republic.
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 10:57 am
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:52 am to wackatimesthree
The truth is NO ONE, not on this board or any of the "experts" currently chiming in, know what's going to happen. Everything is based on speculation, probable's and maybes. I'm willing to give it longer than 24hrs before I form an opinion. 
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:52 am to BeeFense5
95% of this board would be roasting a Dem for this as intervening with markets/central planning.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:52 am to wackatimesthree
Probably has far more to do with hubris than ignorance
OP being a prime example
OP being a prime example
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:52 am to BugAC
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So you don't believe in retaliatory tariffs?
You'll have to be more specific.
I don't believe in retaliatory tariffs for what purpose?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:53 am to BeeFense5
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If the Dems rolled this out, the board would be in Chernobyl Melt mode.
When have the Democrats ever favored America first policies over globalism? You can make that stupid comment, but that's like saying, "if the Dems started DOGE the place would melt". It's nonsensical because America first is not a part of the Democrat philosophy.
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 10:53 am
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:53 am to Robin Masters
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Probably has far more to do with hubris than ignorance
OP being a prime example
Imma' say it has to do with neither, but bald stupidity.
You being a prime example of that theory.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:53 am to wackatimesthree
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You'll have to be more specific.
I don't believe in retaliatory tariffs for what purpose?
To force other countries to eliminate tariffs or other penalties on US goods that we are supposed to have open trade with.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:54 am to BeeFense5
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It’s just that politics has become tribal.
That's part of it, but I think it's also part of our turn in the declining hegemon barrel.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:54 am to wackatimesthree
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The gap between the degree of basic economic understanding and the certainty with which populists blindly support these tariffs and their rollout is staggering.
This is really what has you questioning how the U.S. made it this far? Seriously?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:55 am to BugAC
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When have the Democrats ever favored America first policies over globalism?
Last term, when Biden not only kept the vast majority of, but expanded Trumps 2018 and 2019 tariffs.
Or in 2016, when only Trump and Bernie Sanders were preaching tariffs.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:56 am to The Maj
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This is really what has you questioning how the U.S. made it this far? Seriously?
Yes.
It's an amazing display of stupidity among the segment of the population that has historically been relied upon to be the adults in the room.
It's an announcement that there are no more adults in the room.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:57 am to wackatimesthree
We didn’t elect Sociopaths as President before Trump.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:58 am to wackatimesthree
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It's an announcement that there are no more adults in the room.
All this based on a message board and the posts that are made on it concerning tariffs... Drama queen much?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:58 am to wackatimesthree
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Last term, when Biden not only kept the vast majority of, but expanded Trumps 2018 and 2019 tariffs.
So then you agree, the posters premise that if the left did this, that we'd be melting, is false. Considering the left actually kept some of Trump's tariffs from his first term.
Also, is this your proof that the left isn't globalist first? Can you give me any other policies or tenants of the Democrat party that puts America first over globalism?
And.... so you then agree, that the melting you are doing over tariffs is quite stupid?
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 10:59 am
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:59 am to wackatimesthree
If the result of a trade war is expanded free trade, why would people who have a firm grasp of economics freak out and say things like OP.
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