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If reparations is the solution, should we go root cause?
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:06 am
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:06 am
Reparations is ostensibly aimed at rectifying the injustice of bringing slaves here and using them to enrich the South.
So, if reparations are paid, would it not make sense to do everything possible to reverse the legacy? Seems like anyone who takes reparations would want to completely wipe the slate clean by moving to where their roots are.
I’m just trying to help get rid of this blight on our national history altogether. I’m a solutions guy.
ETA: To be clear, this is sarcasm. I believe this country has been enriched by our black Americans well beyond plantation slavery. Food, music, science, etc. I just think the intellectual argument for reparations is fatally flawed.
So, if reparations are paid, would it not make sense to do everything possible to reverse the legacy? Seems like anyone who takes reparations would want to completely wipe the slate clean by moving to where their roots are.
I’m just trying to help get rid of this blight on our national history altogether. I’m a solutions guy.
ETA: To be clear, this is sarcasm. I believe this country has been enriched by our black Americans well beyond plantation slavery. Food, music, science, etc. I just think the intellectual argument for reparations is fatally flawed.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 11:10 am
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:11 am to Ag Zwin
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I just think the intellectual argument for reparations is fatally flawed.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:11 am to Ag Zwin
Obama should have gave 1.7 billion in reparations instead of giving 1.7 billion to Iran.
Obama had his chance to give the black and WHITE slave descendants 1.7 billion but didn't do it.
instead Obama gave iran 1.7 billion so Iran could build weapons to blow up US ships and planes.
Obama had his chance to give the black and WHITE slave descendants 1.7 billion but didn't do it.
instead Obama gave iran 1.7 billion so Iran could build weapons to blow up US ships and planes.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:15 am to Ag Zwin
Every white person could give half of their net worth to the cause. Eventually, more would be demanded. By the way, why stop with reparations just in the US, let's go global.
Every single race has been subject to slavery at one point.
Every single race has been subject to slavery at one point.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:19 am to Ag Zwin
Reparations are dumb as hell and just the conversation itself is stupid.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:36 am to Ag Zwin
Actually, we probably owed the slaves something and paid them by letting them stay instead of shipping them back to the nightmare of Africa. We likely should have accepted that they were not equipped to compete at the time and concentrated on education and jobs for them.
And a significant number of their offspring are currently receiving reparations already and probably will be for another 100 years. Set asides, quota's, welfare, preferences and more. However some of the best of America are the back folk who took responsibility for their own happiness and ran with it. Like many if not most of the poor white Irish and Scots did. The last thing many black people need now is some sort of bonus check. For some it would be an insult and for many it would affirm their feelings of "no we can't" and for a many it would just be a pass through to a white, Indian or Asian man's hands.
And a significant number of their offspring are currently receiving reparations already and probably will be for another 100 years. Set asides, quota's, welfare, preferences and more. However some of the best of America are the back folk who took responsibility for their own happiness and ran with it. Like many if not most of the poor white Irish and Scots did. The last thing many black people need now is some sort of bonus check. For some it would be an insult and for many it would affirm their feelings of "no we can't" and for a many it would just be a pass through to a white, Indian or Asian man's hands.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:40 am to Ag Zwin
That's why I said reparations should be paid with 2 conditions:
1. Payment must be collected in person at a U.S. embassy in Africa.
2. At the time of payment you must sign all paperwork to officially renounce your U.S. citizenship and surrender your passport.
1. Payment must be collected in person at a U.S. embassy in Africa.
2. At the time of payment you must sign all paperwork to officially renounce your U.S. citizenship and surrender your passport.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:42 am to Ag Zwin
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I just think the intellectual argument for reparations is fatally flawed.
Of course it is, but this is why they do it....as if it's some sort of big secret;
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And those seeking new ways to engage the Negro politically should remember that public resources have always been the fuel for low-income urban political organization. If organizers can deliver millions of dollars in cash benefits to the ghetto masses, it seems reasonable to expect that the masses will deliver their loyalties to their benefactors. At least, they have always done so in the past.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:08 pm to TrueTiger
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2. At the time of payment you must sign all paperwork to officially renounce your U.S. citizenship and surrender your passport.
Lol how many of these oppressed people have passports??
Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:10 pm to Ag Zwin
what about reparations for the families of Union soldiers who fought and died to free the slaves?
Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:12 pm to momentoftruth87
Reparations will never happen and most know it is just a political ploy to gain votes. It would cost massive amounts of spending to determine who is a descendant of slavery, then who owned slaves, who came later, etc. If they just used taxes then black people who pay are paying themselves and that won't work plus the legal lawsuits that would follow.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:18 pm to Wtodd
I mean that's a yearly thing, surely it counts in the reparations to some degree
Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:06 pm to Ag Zwin
I ain't giving anyone shite. I will become a bum out of spite.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:19 pm to Ag Zwin
quote:Is that a function of time passed or just in general wrt to the concept of reparations?
I just think the intellectual argument for reparations is fatally flawed.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:24 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:It's considered impolite to point it out.........but the bottom line reality is that blacks in the US today are MANY TIMES more well off than their brothers and sisters in the nations from which they were taken. So, giving a black person in 2019 reparations is quite simply asinine.
Is that a function of time passed or just in general wrt to the concept of reparations?
There. I said it. Everyone lose their shite.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:26 pm to ShortyRob
I ain’t losing mine but I’m eat up with white privilege so there’s that
Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:27 pm to zatetic
I'm pretty sure any white man that wakes up next to Jemele Hill will say he was raped.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:30 pm to Ag Zwin
“Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” - Muhammad Ali
It's not popular to say these days, but anyone who lives in America today, who is the descendant of slaves, has benefited greatly.
Would they have been better off if their ancestors stayed and they were born in modern day Ethiopia or Liberia?
It's not popular to say these days, but anyone who lives in America today, who is the descendant of slaves, has benefited greatly.
Would they have been better off if their ancestors stayed and they were born in modern day Ethiopia or Liberia?
Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:32 pm to Ag Zwin
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ETA: To be clear, this is sarcasm. I believe this country has been enriched by our black Americans well beyond plantation slavery. Food, music, science, etc. I just think the intellectual argument for reparations is fatally flawed.
Foolish
The biggest mistake ever made in the colonies and what later became the US was the African Slave trade.
20+ times the wealth ever generated from slavery has been lost dealing with it's aftermath.
Without the "Great Society" the US would be currently debt free.
22 Trillion has been wasted already and we are still dealing with this bullshite problem.
That is some awful expensive Jazz and Rap music.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:39 pm to Loserman
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Foolish
The biggest mistake ever made in the colonies and what later became the US was the African Slave trade.
20+ times the wealth ever generated from slavery has been lost dealing with it's aftermath.
Without the "Great Society" the US would be currently debt free.
22 Trillion has been wasted already and we are still dealing with this bullshite problem.
That is some awful expensive Jazz and Rap music.
Mother frickin this
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