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re: If Healthcare Vote is Why Boelter Shot Rep. Hortman, Why Did He Shoot Sen. Hoffman?
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:53 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:53 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Personally, I don’t think the obvious answer is the real one here. Let the moderates take their victory lap for now, but there’s just as much evidence pointing to him being a deranged leftist as there is to him being a deranged right-winger. Feels like we’re still missing a piece of the puzzle.
eta: I’d also say let’s be 100% honest. There is less diversity of thought allowed with the Left than there is the Right. (which I know both sides don’t want to hear with this situation)
eta: I’d also say let’s be 100% honest. There is less diversity of thought allowed with the Left than there is the Right. (which I know both sides don’t want to hear with this situation)
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 4:58 pm
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:lots?
Lots of centrists have these qualities.
who else?
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
Biden claims to be a Christian so he’s MAGA according to your logic.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:56 pm to Klark Kent
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but there’s just as much evidence pointing to him being a deranged leftist
Update: there is not
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as there is to him being a deranged right-winger.
I don't think anybody ITT or the others on this board is making that argument.
That's a common strawman, though, ignoring the holes being poked in the above "he's a leftist" echo chamber talking point.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:56 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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who else?
This seems to imply you're referencing someone specific, so name them.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:57 pm to Madking
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Biden claims to be a Christian so he’s MAGA according to your logic.
I've never once called the shooter MAGA, though.
And I've clarified in response to this strawman multiple times.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
Translation - “I’m backpedaling once again”
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
there is. he worked for Walz. that is a fact. you can’t get a round it no matter how much you don’t like it. it’s the hole in your entire “blame it on the Right” campaign.
Walz is one of the most Progressive politicians in the United States. That is undeniable.
but here you are insisting he is devout Evangelical Catholic. Those type of people would not work for a Tim Walz. Ever. Something isn’t adding up.
Walz is one of the most Progressive politicians in the United States. That is undeniable.
but here you are insisting he is devout Evangelical Catholic. Those type of people would not work for a Tim Walz. Ever. Something isn’t adding up.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:00 pm to Klark Kent
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he worked for Walz
He did not.
He was appointed to a bipartisan board by the prior governor and Walz reappointed him. That's not "working for" Walz
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that is a fact.
No. See above.
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Walz is one of the most Progressive politicians in the United States. That is undeniable.
And he was on the kill list
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:its not a difficult n question.
This seems to imply you're referencing someone specific, so name them.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:02 pm to UncleFestersLegs
That applies to EZE Tiger I believe, although nobody on here would call him a centrist.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
I suspect we are missing something and you too will be eating your words or backpedaling again. Something isn’t adding up with you clear cut campaign to blame it on the Right.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:03 pm to Klark Kent
I agree. It's obvious he's deranged.
As someone who is pro-life and anti-gender madness, I haven't heard any CRAZY ideas from Boelter as a right winger. OTOH, I haven't heard any ideas from Boelter to suggest he's a leftist. All ears though.
As someone who is pro-life and anti-gender madness, I haven't heard any CRAZY ideas from Boelter as a right winger. OTOH, I haven't heard any ideas from Boelter to suggest he's a leftist. All ears though.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:not a specific person dumbass. You listed 3 positions and implied that they were obviously conservative
That applies to EZE Tiger I believe, although nobody on here would call him a centrist.
I listed polar opposite positions to test your logic but your masterful, scholarly grasp of facts and conclusions seems to be struggling
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:13 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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by IvoryBillMatt
Dude is a quack. Go back to chasing that extinct bird. fricking retard
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:15 pm to Klark Kent
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Something isn’t adding up with you clear cut campaign to blame it on the Right.
I have never once "blamed it on the right"
I'm just countering the irrational position, given the evidence we have, that he was a leftist. There are plenty of other secondary motivations (Behind being crazy) available other than "Leftism", even on the political spectrum.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:18 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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You listed 3 positions and implied that they were obviously conservativ
No
I posted they were obviously not Leftist, which is true.
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I listed polar opposite positions to test your logic
You did not. You said
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Pro-abortion
Anti-trans surgery on children
Atheist
Anti-trans is the same as the shooter
Pro-abortion is different
Atheist isn't exactly "polar", but it is different.
So 2/3 are counter, not all of them. Hence why there is more movement. Being non-Evangelical opens up a lot of population
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
Wait so Anti-trans surgery on children is equivalent to anti-trans in your fricked up brain? Is anti-pedophilia the same a anti-sex?
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:53 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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Wait so Anti-trans surgery on children is equivalent to anti-trans in your fricked up brain?
It means anti-trans positions, generally, which would obviously include being against trans surgery on children (along with allowing trannies into bathrooms/locker rooms of the opposite sex, sports of the opposite sex, etc.)
He was anti-trans, which is not associated with the Left
He was anti-abortion, which is not associated with the Left
He was Evangelical Christian, which is not associated with the Left
I'll ask for the 100th time today, given those 3 variables, why would you ever associate him with the Left?
Do you honestly think being appointed by Walz's predecessor to a bipartisan government workforce overcomes the above 3 undisputed variables?
Again, this isn't even bringing up the home schooling (Which isn't by itself partisan, but with the above is on brand for that type) or the reports on his list (focusing on DEMs and abortion providers/proponents).
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:obviously. And pro- trans positions would also be pro- child mutilation in the same way pro-sex positions would be pro-pedophilia. What a fricked up world view you have.
It means anti-trans positions, generally, which would obviously include being against trans surgery on children
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