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re: Ice Shooting In Austin - Democrats are ALREADY attacking.

Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by ArHog
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:19 pm to
He's walking after being shot in the upper spine



Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:21 pm to
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Never said you were. Just pointing out what democrats are doing.



You're right. I apologize. I confused you with someone else.

I agree completely that the Dem strategy was to swamp us with bogus asylum claims...which would take years to decide.

I STILL don't know why Trump hasn't temporarily hired/deputized 100,000 favorable immigration judges to clear out the backlog. Makes no sense.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:24 pm to
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He's walking after being shot in the upper spine



Yeah I agree. That's why I pointed it out. ICE said it was a shooting. Could that just be a fragment of something?
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:27 pm to
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employee rights


What are you referring to, here?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:27 pm to


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I STILL don't know why Trump hasn't temporarily hired/deputized 100,000 favorable immigration judges to clear out the backlog. Makes no sense.


I think he's just skipping that part and moving straight to deportation because they shouldn't have been let in to begin with. That said, I don't know for sure. I do know dems have been screaming for due process for foreign law breakers though, so I have to assume Trump is, to some degree, just skipping the asylum hearings.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
10785 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:27 pm to
frick Wilber.

Door Dash needs to answer some questions.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11630 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:27 pm to
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Ivory wants disclosure regardless of employee rights.


With all the crazies, I don't have a problem not knowing the identities of the ICE agents.

SOME explanation of why Perez was shot would be really helpful. The longer DHS waits, the more the Dems will have an uncontradicted story.

Are there any facts to justify the shooting?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11630 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:30 pm to
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I think he's just skipping that part and moving straight to deportation because they shouldn't have been let in to begin with.


Cheers.

You might be right in terms of sheer volume. It takes money to hire lawyers to fight deportation. Probably the vast majority of asylum seekers can't afford attorneys.

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11630 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:31 pm to
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Door Dash needs to answer some questions.


He had a legal work permit. He was an asylum seeker.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:31 pm to
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fragment of something?



AI is the something
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:33 pm to
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I never saw anyone in imminent danger from Perez's vehicle. I saw a stationary Toyota facing the opposite way from an unmarked SUV. BEFORE the Toyota moves, you hear gunshots. The whole time you can see the front of the Toyota. No one is in front of it at any time. ICE admits this was an "officer involved shooting." There are no claims or evidence that Perez was armed or that anyone other than ICE shot him. You don't SEE the passenger side ICE agent exit, but there are two bullet holes in the rear passenger window of the Toyota. It's a safe inference that the passenger side ICE agent shot Perez through that back window. But...I guess it's possible that the driver both shot Perez AND ran around to the driver side of Perez's vehicle. Here's a photo of Perez's wound in the back (seems minor?). His vehicle was never going in reverse. There is nothing shown yet to show how Perez could have been a threat to anyone.

Agreed. Does not look like a Good shoot.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:34 pm to
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I never saw anyone in imminent danger from Perez's vehicle.

I saw a stationary Toyota facing the opposite way from an unmarked SUV. BEFORE the Toyota moves, you hear gunshots. The whole time you can see the front of the Toyota. No one is in front of it at any time.


You can't see anything in the video that was released. Nobody can.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11630 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:39 pm to
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You can't see anything in the video that was released. Nobody can.


ANYTHING? You see Perez's car STATIONARY, pointed AWAY from the ICE vehicle. You hear gunshots, THEN Perez's vehicle rolls slowly forward a few feet.

Most important, you don't see anyone in front of Perez's vehicle. Again, maybe there was something BEFORE the video that justified the shooting. It's telling that not even ICE has claimed anything to justify the shooting.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11630 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:42 pm to
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AI is the something


Now you're just reaching for anything.

Here's the YouTube video of ABC's reporting. Check out the 35 second mark:

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11630 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:49 pm to
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He's walking after being shot in the upper spine


Answer to the spine question. The bullet missed his spine. It's too close to the spine to remove.

"He was transported to Dell Seton Medical Center, where staff told him they weren’t going to remove the bullet because it was too close to his spine, Garces Perez said in the call from the South Texas ICE Processing Center in Pearsall."
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11630 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 5:05 pm to
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Naw you want shite released will nilly
You dgaf about employee rights
You don't gaf about allowing oversight to happen.
You are in fact an alter.


Who are you to tell me who I am and what I think? It gets so tedious.

-I said the identities of the agents shouldn't be released.
-I'm not asking willy nilly. Over 24 hours is a LONG time for DHS not to make a preliminary statement about the basic facts that they know.
-DHS is getting boat raced in the information race.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11630 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 5:08 pm to
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SEEMS!



If I know something, I say that. If I am speculating, I indicate that. What's your problem with that?
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
34648 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 5:08 pm to
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ABC's reporting

Their headline
ICE Officer shoots and injures delivery driver


His attorney
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Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
22135 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 5:13 pm to
Yes, you can't make anything out and have no idea what happened. Neither do I.

But I do hope they riot and burn that city down.
This post was edited on 9/21/26 at 5:16 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11630 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 5:19 pm to
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Their headline
ICE Officer shoots and injures delivery driver
His attorney


Is there any dispute with the ABC headline? DHS said it was an officer involved shooting and that Perez was treated for his wound and is in stable condition. Doordash confirmed that Perez was delivering for them when the incident occurred.

From that undated post, the attorney sure seems like an awful person. Has she lied about the Perez shooting?

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