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re: I wonder if medical students realize...
Posted on 9/6/25 at 3:28 pm to Louisianalabguy
Posted on 9/6/25 at 3:28 pm to Louisianalabguy
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Much of main stream medicine is controlled by pharmaceutical companies.
I find that the real overlord of modern medicine is the insurance companies.
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 3:55 pm to BulldogXero
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How much time does the doctor spend on research post-medical school or are they just relying on what they learned in college?
It’s called “CME.”
And what do you mean by “relying what they learned in college?” You don’t learn medicine in college. You seem to be very confused about the whole process, respectfully.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 3:56 pm to lake chuck fan
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I don't understand where you get the idea that folks would have the same opinion about doctors as lawyers.
Please explain.
I get that idea from all the non scientific bs pushed on the public from the medical profession. From ADHD, fear of cholesterol, even salt is something we need to fear. Not to mention surgically removing undiseased organs and replacing them with some type of opposite sex "organs". The Association of American Pediatricians supported this insane type of treatment
Trust me, there will be a day when many physicians will not want to people to know what they do for a living. Somewhat like some attorneys, once they let people know they are attorneys, that's when the conversation ends.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 3:57 pm to Privateer 2007
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They don't care. They just want easy money.
Lol the medical profession is far from the easiest way to make money... Finance and tech are where the real lazy people go to make big bucks. frick all the work that comes with medical profession
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:01 pm to Louisianalabguy
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Thanks for admitting there definitely was a profit incentive behind it. What other profit incentives are there in the medical field?
That was pharmacies. We don't make shite off vaccines. Some big, hospital owned clinics might but we don't give any.
ACO's (accountable care organizations) and PCH (patient centered medical homes) incentivize providers to do less for you. It also incentivizes them to ditch sick, complicated patients as it may hurt their metrics.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:02 pm to nealnan8
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I find that the real overlord of modern medicine is the insurance companies.
Agreed. It would be interesting to find out who are the main investors of insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies and medical centers.
What's the odds that they are the same? Just a question.....
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:06 pm to UtahCajun
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Why you lying? There are law offices who specialize in ensuring you guys do not cross the lines with the kickbacks given to you for using certain drugs and equipment.
Kick backs? Those cheap arse lunches our staff girls like? They can only spend like $10/person. That's also how we get samples for our patients. You know, those free meds people think fall out of the sky. There may be some isolated cases, but it's not worth losing my practice over.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:06 pm to oklahogjr
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Lol the medical profession is far from the easiest way to make money.
Yeah, have to do well in undergrad to get into any med school. Then it’s 4 years of medical school while often incurring 6 figure debt. Then it’s another 3-7 years of residency. And then another 1-3 years of fellowship. All to get your first “real job” in your early to mid 30s. Definitely easy money.
I recommend against going into medicine these days unless you truly couldn’t see yourself doing anything else because there are so many easier paths to good money.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:07 pm to SmackoverHawg
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That was pharmacies. We don't make shite off vaccines.
So you didn't make the government bonuses from every positive covid test as the government told us? How about large payments for hospializing these covid patients or putting them on remdisavir? These things were clearly communicated by the media.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:08 pm to SmackoverHawg
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Kick backs?
These posters think every time we hit “send” on a Rx, we get a new cash app payment from Big Pharma.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:09 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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It’s called “CME.”
And what do you mean by “relying what they learned in college?” You don’t learn medicine in college. You seem to be very confused about the whole process, respectfully.
Is CME like when you are required to obtain x amount of professional education credits to maintain [insert professional certification here]? If so, I legitimately did not know that doctors had to do that, but it makes perfect sense.
You really aren't helping your case as much as you think you are though
Secondly, you are correct. you learn medicine in medical school. Were are most medical schools located or at least associated with? a college. The fact that you are attempting to make such a ticky tack distinction really proves my point precisely.
Found the doctor folks
This post was edited on 9/6/25 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:10 pm to Louisianalabguy
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Trust me, there will be a day when many physicians will not want to people to know what they do for a living. Somewhat like some attorneys, once they let people know they are attorneys, that's when the conversation ends.
I disagree.... lawyers are parasites with zero principles, generally.
AI will take the place of many doctors way, way, before what your suggesting.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:13 pm to David_DJS
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I can make a list of similar "marketing schemes" but I bet you'd be better at that than me.
I probably wouldn't be. I don't have to do that bullshite to make good money. I'll find shite reps have left and take it down. I ban the ones that do it. Not much of an issue anymore. The doctors I use don't do that shite either, but I see things on facebook and in other social media ads etc of physicians pushing things. I also warn my patients to check with me before they have anything done by a specialist unless it's an emergency, even then check with me if your conscious and it's not going to delay care.
Pay has been stagnant for 2 decades. People will do desperate shite to pay their bills and some have no morals or ethics. Some are just pissed at the system and have decided to be mercenaries to the highest bidder.
I will agree that the industry as a whole has gone to shite and thanks to more and more unethical physicians and facilities, it gives us all a bad name. To be honest, the criticism is well deserved by many. Unfortunately, the system seems to be training them to be that way. I've always been cynical and questioned authority. I guess it didn't take with me as it did many of my peers.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:15 pm to lake chuck fan
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AI will take the place of many doctors way, way, before what your suggesting.
You may be right. I know individuals can et testing kits, take their own blood and urine, send them off and get results. Why can't there be AI systems that come up with diagnosis from your personal lab test results? I think you're on to something.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:16 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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These posters think every time we hit “send” on a Rx, we get a new cash app payment from Big Pharma.
And if MDs in this thread were to believed, pharmaceutical companies wouldn't be targeting 70% of their marketing dollars at doctors.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:16 pm to Privateer 2007
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We pay physicians way more than rest of world.
They have it very easy here.
Their training and workload doesn't compare to ours. It also cost us a shite ton more to get the degree. An American trained physician can work anywhere in the world. The reverse isn't true though.
Why don't some of y'all that think it's so damn easy go to med school and give it a try?
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:17 pm to David_DJS
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nd if MDs in this thread were to believed, pharmaceutical companies wouldn't be targeting 70% of their marketing dollars at doctors.
They don't.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:17 pm to SmackoverHawg
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Their training and workload doesn't compare to ours. It also cost us a shite ton more to get the degree. An American trained physician can work anywhere in the world. The reverse isn't true though.
Stop, if they accept any more patients, they may no longer be able only work half days on Friday.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:18 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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These posters think every time we hit “send” on a Rx, we get a new cash app payment from Big Pharma.
They should avoid doctors at all costs.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 4:18 pm to BulldogXero
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Is CME like when you are required to obtain x amount of professional education credits to maintain [insert professional certification here]? If so, I legitimately did not know that doctors had to do that, but it makes perfect sense.
You really aren't helping your case as much as you think you are though
So requiring doctors to stay current and continue learning after they finish med school and residency…is a bad thing to you? Right after you just asked
“How much time does the doctor spend on research post-medical school or are they just relying on what they learned in college?”
You’re all over the place buddy
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