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re: I wonder how the principled Rep. who sat out Georgia’s vote to make a point are feeling
Posted on 4/15/21 at 11:37 am to shreveport_gator
Posted on 4/15/21 at 11:37 am to shreveport_gator
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If you live in Georgia and didn’t vote, don’t ever post on here complaining about the dems. You played right into their hands.
Exactly! In fact, funding from Stacy Abrams sought to spread the election fraud narrative to deter turnout.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 11:39 am
Posted on 4/15/21 at 11:48 am to Revelator
I didn’t sit out, but after Loeffler and Purdue allowed it to be stolen from them and then stabbed Trump in the back after he endorsed them, I wish I would have sat out. What you can’t seem to understand is that elections are rigged now and there’s not a damn thing anyone is going to do about it. You can pull the lever for whoever you want and they’ll still install whoever they want regardless. No one stops them from coming up with enough fake votes to win in the middle of the night.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:15 pm to ChuckO1975
quote:F*ck it. You’re right. the best way to advance your agenda is losing elections by in landslides. Makes perfect sense.
If elections are fraudulent, then widescale lack of participation is far more damaging to the system than everyone trying to outvote fraud.
I wonder why democrats don’t try to lose elections?
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:25 pm to Jjdoc
quote:Ever heard of "cutting off your nose to spite your face"?
Had the Senate candidates not turned their backs on the voters in Ga, they would have turned out.
There is a problem when you run from a current issue.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:27 pm to Magician2
quote:Your level of stupid has expanded its limits.
I'm really glad I sat out.
Loeffler and Perdue are nothing but GOPe stooges that would be milking their time in DC.
Some of y'all act like the GOP candidates are going to save us and stop everything. Lol man they are just delaying and dodging everything.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:33 pm to FlexDawg
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You can pull the lever for whoever you want and they’ll still install whoever they want regardless. No one stops them from coming up with enough fake votes to win in the middle of the night.
Yep, might as well take the ball and go home or my favorite: 'Let's burn it all down'.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:03 pm to Taxing Authority
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F*ck it. You’re right. the best way to advance your agenda is losing elections by in landslides. Makes perfect sense.
The best way to win when faced with a false dichotomy is to choose neither.
And yes, I am right.
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wonder why democrats don’t try to lose elections?
Try getting your blood sugar up a little bit and thinking a little harder about it.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:13 pm to ChuckO1975
quote:Guarantees you lose. Great strategy!
The best way to win when faced with a false dichotomy is to choose neither.
quote:Oh no. It’s your strategy You explain how you gain political power by losing elections intentionally. I’m keen to hear this in your own words.
Try getting your blood sugar up a little bit and thinking a little harder about it.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 2:08 pm to Taxing Authority
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Guarantees you lose. Great strategy!
Wrong, brainlet. It's the only possible way to win. Didn't they teach you that in maff class?
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Oh no. It’s your strategy You explain how you gain political power by losing elections intentionally. I’m keen to hear this in your own words.
I get that this is a little beyond your level of comprehension, but if elections are rigged, or are otherwise irrelevant, then widespread cessation of participation is a political act, and a form of resistance, which decreases the legitimacy of the process.
Of course, that could never be as powerful as voting for the least worst of two losing options. No sir, you got me licked. No simple man could gave envisioned such a bold path to victory.
If you want to have a serious conversation about this without shitting your pants in fear that we will have fewer recucklicans in office, I'm equipped for it. Believe me.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 2:10 pm to ChuckO1975
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I get that this is a little beyond your level of comprehension, but if elections are rigged, or are otherwise irrelevant, then widespread cessation of participation is a political act, and a form of resistance, which decreases the legitimacy of the process.
Of course, that could never be as powerful as voting for the least worst of two losing options. No sir, you got me licked. No simple man could gave envisioned such a bold path to victory.
Fine, but it's hardly the only approach, and I would argue not the most effective.
If you wanted to cast the process as rigged/fraudulent, why not do it in a way that results in Republicans keeping the majority? Seems that would be the best outcome.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 2:15 pm to obdobd918
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If the RINOs do not wake up and realize that people are FOR Trump and not for RINOs, then republicans will lose many more elections. The RINOS have isolated their base from them.
This is it.
Revelator can say what he wants but the Georgia Republican leaders are to blame. I hope they all lose in 2022. If they do, it will be the Republican party's fault for running these morons.
All they had to do was look into the fruad. They would not have even needed to change anything, just legit look into it. They either did the bare minimum, buried their heads, or bullied others not to bring it up. Of course you are not going to find evidence if you dont look.
Our vote is the only little bit of power we have. I takes these yahoos to lose to wake their asses up.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 2:15 pm to David_DJS
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Fine, but it's hardly the only approach, and I would argue not the most effective.
IF an election is rigged or the outcome us otherwise irrelevant, then lining up to vote is granting legitimacy to a process that doesn't deserve it.
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If you wanted to cast the process as rigged/fraudulent, why not do it in a way that results in Republicans keeping the majority? Seems that would be the best outcome.
Would it? I disagree. Republican majorities have proven a false hope time and time again, not to mention, the rapidly dwindling White, rural and suburban population makes this strategy doubly bad.
It's time to start thinking about politics in total, not just elections.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 2:23 pm to ChuckO1975
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F an election is rigged or the outcome us otherwise irrelevant, then lining up to vote is granting legitimacy to a process that doesn't deserve it.
How would casting 25 million votes for Perdue be lending legitimacy to the process?
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Would it? I disagree. Republican majorities have proven a false hope time and time again, not to mention, the rapidly dwindling White, rural and suburban population makes this strategy doubly bad.
It's time to start thinking about politics in total, not just elections.
So you're blaming the politicians Republicans vote into office for not doing right by Republicans. Sounds like a rank/file Republican problem, not leadership one.
Moreover, everything you advocate for is more easily accomplished with (not ideal) Republicans in a majority. By Georgias electing Warnock and Ossoff, they have made more possible the ability of the Left to assume a commanding grip on this country for at least a generation. "It's time to start thinking about politics in total, not just elections" - that's exactly right.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 2:27 pm to ChuckO1975
quote:Too stupid to argue with.
It's the only possible way to win. Didn't they teach you that in maff class?
quote:Nope. Democrats will just take the margin of victory and take it as a mandate.
but if elections are rigged, or are otherwise irrelevant, then widespread cessation of participation is a political act, and a form of resistance, which decreases the legitimacy of the process.
Let's say Alabama goes undefeated until the last game of the year. Auburn says "they cheated, so we're going to forfeit". You're saying Nick Saban would turn around and say "yeah, you guys got us. We totally did it. We're not going to play in the national championship".
quote:Nothing has indicated this.
I'm equipped for it.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 2:29 pm to obdobd918
quote:If you let democrats win, RINOs will move more left, not fight. Good grief.
If the RINOs do not wake up and realize that people are FOR Trump and not for RINOs, then republicans will lose many more elections.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 2:31 pm to Revelator
Does not matter. The democrats were always going to win those 2 seats. They would have found enough votes to make it happen
Posted on 4/15/21 at 2:38 pm to David_DJS
quote:If they want to show the election iligimate... catch the cheating, and show it. It's that simple. I know... it's coming... tomorrow.
lending legitimacy to the process?
Posted on 4/15/21 at 2:51 pm to ChuckO1975
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but if elections are rigged, or are otherwise irrelevant, then widespread cessation of participation is a political act, and a form of resistance, which decreases the legitimacy of the process.
No it will be perceived as acceptance.
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that could never be as powerful as voting for the least worst of two losing options
You must be about twelve years old. The world has never been or never will be like your black or white, one or zero fantasy land, especially politics. Your attitude is a pure cop out.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 3:54 pm to David_DJS
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How would casting 25 million votes for Perdue be lending legitimacy to the process?
Think about it. The state holds elections, and participation confers legitimacy in the process. This is a very, very basic concept.
Elections are not the only source of political power though, far from it, and if you don't believe me, watch how every cop in America simultaneously started treating blacks with kids gloves after the summer of riots. That's just one other example which suits the left very well.
We are talking politics in total right now.
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So you're blaming the politicians Republicans vote into office for not doing right by Republicans. Sounds like a rank/file Republican problem, not leadership one.
I'm saying that this strategy isn't working, which is undeniable.
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Moreover, everything you advocate for is more easily accomplished with (not ideal) Republicans in a majority
This is a failed premise.
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