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re: I wish more people would read Ayn Rand. Terrible at fiction but her themes are awesome

Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:10 pm to
Posted by stickly
Asheville, NC
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:10 pm to
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Do you ever wonder why I think so many of the Far Right posters are mindless buffoons? This “stickly” guy is the poster-boy.


You are boring and have always been boring. You try and say some things that make you look like a libertarian but at the end of the day you are a marxist.
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 9:12 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:15 pm to
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Are we at war with Eurasia or Eastasia?
Do you think this illiterate lumox will understand the reference?
Posted by stickly
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2012
2338 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:19 pm to
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Do you think this illiterate lumox will understand the reference?


Yea. I get it. And you're still a marxist apologist.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:24 pm to
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And you are both fake bureaucrats. It is obvious that you are both here with an agenda. Read Marx and Engels? Really lol? I look forward to when we get to round up people for the camps.


I suppose I’ll indulge the troll a bit further. Perhaps you should search my post history.

Yes, read Marx and Engels. If you truly want to understand what you are attacking then it’s best to know a large portion of their primary sources.

Also, arguing for camps is akin to you being a Leninist.
Posted by stickly
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:27 pm to
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I suppose I’ll indulge the troll a bit further. Perhaps you should search my post history.

Yes, read Marx and Engels. If you truly want to understand what you are attacking then it’s best to know a large portion of their primary sources.

Also, arguing for camps is akin to you being a Leninist.


Mmkay. Argue for Marxist ideals, understand and sympathize with them but you are somehow outside of it all because you are an intellectual. Got it. Sounds like bullshite.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:30 pm to
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Argue for Marxist ideals,


You’ve completely misunderstood what a few of us have told you in your own thread. We never said argue for Marxist ideals. We said read them so you understand and can properly refute them. If you want to be this obtuse then buy land in the middle of nowhere and surround yourself with only people/things you agree with.
Posted by stickly
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2012
2338 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:34 pm to
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You’ve completely misunderstood what a few of us have told you in your own thread. We never said argue for Marxist ideals. We said read them so you understand and can properly refute them. If you want to be this obtuse then buy land in the middle of nowhere and surround yourself with only people/things you agree with.



No, I don't need to understand Marx and Engels philosophy at all because I I am diametrically opposed to every fiber of their existence. The world would be far better if they never existed. Their ideas are terrible and responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of people. They are the AIDs of the world.

Can we be done now?
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 9:37 pm
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:40 pm to
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Can we be done now?


No. I’d like to see you upvote your post and downvote mine one more time.
Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:41 pm to
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:42 pm to
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that his highest moral purpose is the achievement of his own happiness... that each man must live as an end in himself, and follow his own rational self-interest.


Rand greatly influenced my personal and political philosophies. I always got a kick out of Paul Ryan claiming Rand as a philosophical guidepost. He must have read some other books.....
Posted by stickly
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2012
2338 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:45 pm to
You have been downvoted (as you should be). How 'bout now?
Posted by stickly
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2012
2338 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:48 pm to
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No. I’d like to see you upvote your post and downvote mine one more time.


Oh. you poor baby. Everyone knows that a marxist like you should have free reign. I'm just a bad doo-doo-head capitalist. My bad.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:49 pm to
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You have been downvoted (as you should be). How 'bout now?


1) Your parenthetical clause is subjective and Marx may like that. 2) You didn’t upvote your own post, so I’m somewhat disappointed. If that doesn’t occur, how else will I know if 2+2=5?
Posted by stickly
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2012
2338 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:51 pm to
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1) Your parenthetical clause is subjective and Marx may like that. 2) You didn’t upvote your own post, so I’m somewhat disappointed. If that doesn’t occur, how else will I know if 2+2=5?


If there has ever been a more boring blowhard I have never encountered them. Congrats of your boring blowhard participation trophy. Very socialist. Cheers.
Posted by GeauxTrain
Member since Sep 2019
1691 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:52 pm to
The flaw with Rand's philosophy is that in her later years she became destitute and would've starved to death in the streets if not for handouts from others and government subsidies.

There must be some kind of basic safety net yet she was against it with every fiber of her being.
Posted by stickly
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2012
2338 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:57 pm to
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The flaw with Rand's philosophy is that in her later years she became destitute and would've starved to death in the streets if not for handouts from others and government subsidies.


Yea. That's not true as far as I can find.
Posted by GeauxTrain
Member since Sep 2019
1691 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 10:02 pm to
Then you didn't look very hard or are just incapable. She survived on Social Security and Medicare until her death in 1982. She opposed both programs.
Posted by stickly
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2012
2338 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 10:03 pm to
Show me.
Posted by GeauxTrain
Member since Sep 2019
1691 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 10:06 pm to
Geez, first Google result: LINK

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Rand herself experienced such a leveling effect in her retirement. After undergoing surgery in 1974 for lung cancer caused by her heavy smoking, she found herself in straitened circumstances.

Two years later, she was paired with social worker Evva Pryor, who gave an interview in 1998 about their relationship. “Rarely have I respected someone as much as I did Ayn Rand,” said Pryor. When asked about their philosophical disagreements, she replied, “My background was social work. That should tell you all you need to know about our differences.” Pryor was tasked with persuading Rand to accept Social Security and Medicare to help with mounting medical expenses.

Finally, Rand relented. “Whether she agreed or not is not the issue,” said Pryor, “She saw the necessity for both her and [her husband] Frank.” Or as Weiss puts it, “Reality had intruded upon her ideological pipedreams.” That’s one way of interpreting the contradiction: that Rand’s philosophy, Objectivism, “has no practical purpose except to promote the economic interests of the people bankrolling it”—the sole function of her thought is to justify wealth, explain away poverty, and normalize the sort of Hobbesian war of all against all Rand saw as a societal ideal.
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 10:08 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 10:06 pm to
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I don't need to understand Marx and Engels philosophy at all because I I am diametrically opposed to every fiber of their existence.


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