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re: I wish more people would read Ayn Rand. Terrible at fiction but her themes are awesome
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:10 pm to Taxing Authority
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:10 pm to Taxing Authority
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Lighten up Francis. Your misery isn’t productive. Did you actually read Atlas Shrugged?
Yes, I did. All three horrible movies, back-to-back. BTW, I'm not miserable at all. I just do not trust anything that the left, progressives, or whatever you are are dealing.
BTW, read Atlas Shrugged too. Still an average *novel*.
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 8:33 pm
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:27 pm to stickly
quote:Read or watch? Never saw the movie(s) but can’t imagine they compare to the book.
Yes, I did. All three horrible movies
quote:Great!
I'm not miserable at all.
quote:Well... believe it or not, you can read Marx without becoming a Marxist. If you’re solid in your character, it will only affirm your ideals. And helps to understand why other believe backwards ideas like socialism.
I just do not trust anything that the left, progressives, or whatever you are are dealing.
That said you should read Marx. He was right about a lot of things. He peg the social-economic-political cycle perfectly. But, yeah he was wrong about many more.Treat it like a buffet. HINT: you should do the same with Rand.
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:32 pm to Taxing Authority
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Well... believe it or not, you can read Marx without becoming a Marxist. If you’re solid in your character, it will only affirm your ideals. And helps to understand why other believe backwards ideas like socialism.
That said you should read Marx. He was right about a lot of things. He peg the social-economic-political cycle perfectly. But, yeah he was wrong about many more.Treat it like a buffet. HINT: you should do the same with Rand.
I read that and then I thought "blah, blah, blah. something about Marx is interesting, something about Engels is illuminating,... blah". Then I thought 'let's just remove all communists from society and go back to a great world that is full of opportunity :-) and eliminate the communist shitheads.
This time the only thing that needs to be different is that the good guys need to do the unthinkable first. That is all.
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:37 pm to stickly
quote:If thst what you took from thst... ok? Sun Tzu would tell you knowing your enemy is as important as knowing yourself.
I read that and then I thought "blah, blah, blah. something about Marx is interesting, something about Engels is illuminating,... blah".
quote:If you read Marx you’d know why this is not only a bad idea, it is not possible.
Then I thought 'let's just remove all communists from society and go back to a great world that is full of opportunity :-) and eliminate the communist shitheads.
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:39 pm to stickly
Ideas don’t die unless a governing body deems it so like in 1984. It’s the ability to deconstruct and successfully attack an idea so as to change the minds influenced by it that are important for the prosperity that we seek.
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Then I thought 'let's just remove all communists from society and go back to a great world that is full of opportunity :-) and eliminate the communist shitheads.
Are we at war with Eurasia or Eastasia?
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:41 pm to Jyrdis
quote:He’s gonna hate this...
Ideas don’t die unless a governing body deems it so like in 1984. It’s the ability to deconstruct and successfully attack an idea so as to change the minds influenced by it that are important for the prosperity that we seek.
but he needs to read Mao if he wants to lean how to conduct a cultural war. Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:45 pm to Taxing Authority
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If you read Marx you’d know why this is not only a bad idea, it is not possible.
Blah, blah, Marx! frick EVERYTHING about his ideology. He's dead, his ideas will soon be dead, and his followers and admirers should all be actively shamed as being traders against freedom and liberty.
Some things are not acceptable or compatible with being a citizen in the US. Being a communist is one of those things.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:48 pm to Taxing Authority
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He’s gonna hate this... but he needs to read Mao if he wants to lean how to conduct a cultural war.
Judging by his posts I think he does. Old dictator meet new dictator.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:48 pm to stickly
quote:Yeah. Not a single person in this thread has suggested that.
Some things are not acceptable or compatible with being a citizen in the US. Being a communist is one of those things.
You’re boring.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:52 pm to stickly
quote:And I wish she had been a better writer.
I wish more people would read Ayn Rand.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:53 pm to Taxing Authority
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Yeah. Not a single person in this thread has suggested that.
You’re boring.
You an apologist for terrible ideologies. You are hiding behind a pragmatic *balance* but you are too open to terrible ideas to be taken seriously. I can't think of anything more boring than bad ideas left unchecked. It almost sounds like Marx...
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:54 pm to stickly
I've never read the book but I like The Fountain Head movie with Gary Cooper. Especially the court room speech.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:55 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:Anyone afraid to read and try to understand an opposing ideology must not be very confident in the merits of his own.
Well... believe it or not, you can read Marx without becoming a Marxist. If you’re solid in your character, it will only affirm your ideals. And helps to understand why other believe backwards ideas like socialism.
That said you should read Marx. He was right about a lot of things. He peg the social-economic-political cycle perfectly. But, yeah he was wrong about many more.Treat it like a buffet. HINT: you should do the same with Rand.
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:57 pm to AggieHank86
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Anyone afraid to read and try to understand an opposing ideology must not be very confident in the merits of his own.
I'm shocked that Aggie Hank is here with a commie hot take. Shocked I say!
My god you are boring and predictable.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:59 pm to stickly
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I'm shocked that Aggie Hank is here with a commie hot take. Shocked I say!
It’s not often I agree with Hank, but he’s right. If you’re too weak-minded to read the opposite of your viewpoint then your convictions must not be that strong to begin with.
Also, you never answered TA’s question: did you read or watch Atlas Shrugged?
Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:04 pm to Jyrdis
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Also, you never answered TA’s question: did you read or watch Atlas Shrugged?
Both. And you are both fake bureaucrats. It is obvious that you are both here with an agenda. Read Marx and Engels? Really lol? I look forward to when we get to round up people for the camps.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:05 pm to stickly
quote:Only “commies” have the sense to try and understand the opposition?
I'm shocked that Aggie Hank is here with a commie hot take. Shocked I say!
OK
Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:05 pm to Jyrdis
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It’s not often I agree with Hank, but he’s right.
Mmmkay. Sure. Maybe you should get his dick out of you mouth first. You guys are a fraud, as a team. Oh, and boring too.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:08 pm to Jyrdis
quote:Do you ever wonder why I think so many of the Far Right posters are mindless buffoons? This “stickly” guy is the poster-boy.
It’s not often I agree with Hank, but he’s right. If you’re too weak-minded to read the opposite of your viewpoint then your convictions must not be that strong to begin with.
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:10 pm to Jyrdis
I’ve read Marx and other assorted pinko garbage. It’s interesting on an academic level.
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