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re: "I Went to the Hospital with chest pains. The reality in the ER was interesting..."
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:18 pm to TigerDoc
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:18 pm to TigerDoc
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so if you, Joe Schmo citizen, are presented with a choice of accepting consensus or a contrarian, you should require a mountain of evidence before being persuaded by the contrarian.
Not applicable in 2023.
The Consensus was built by greedy people who were proven to be LIARS and con artists.
The world changed with Covid and you are trying to argue as if the Scientific Community hasn't been completely Politicized and bought and paid for.
There is no going back on this.
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:18 pm to AmishSamurai
Science is quite diverse and does occasionally and regularly involve great geniuses overturning consensuses, but when and how these will occur is quite hard to predict and so we're left with a choice about how to proceed with this uncertainty. If you choose antivaxx contrarians during smallpox epidemics, for example, not as well as if you go with tested vaccines. There are lots of examples of this sort of thing.
Science really is much more a community activity than the romanticized vision of Galileo and Einstein (most of the time.
Science really is much more a community activity than the romanticized vision of Galileo and Einstein (most of the time.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:21 pm to TigerDoc
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Science
Is never settled, and dissent is necessary.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:26 pm to TigerDoc
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In 2023 $cience really is much more a hive-mindset than the romanticized vision of Galileo and Einstein
I think this is what you meant to say.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:26 pm to Flats
I recognize the distinction and I agree with you about deceit and fraud being poison to the process of creating and trusting knowledge. Our priors probably differ in a number of individual cases on what specific manner of breaches of trust are occurring.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:27 pm to TigerDoc
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Science is quite diverse
I don't recall an outcry from the scientific community when fellow scientists with the wrong opinion were banned from social media...Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
agree that it's never settled and dissent is necessary. Disagree in part with Booga's comment about a hive mindset. There is a hive, but there's no queen. There are lots of control nodes and feedback loops and it's being influenced by lots of social factors outside of the scientific community too.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:29 pm to Azkiger
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I don't recall an outcry from the scientific community when fellow scientists with the wrong opinion were banned from social media...
Bingo.
If anything, these so-called $cientists and experts should have been decrying their banishment the loudest, but not a peep.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:30 pm to TigerDoc
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There is a hive, but there's no queen.
Money is the Queen and it was obviously clear during Covid: Toe the company line and you will be rewarded, question ANYTHING and be labeled a witch.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:31 pm to Azkiger
We're now getting into social-media content regulation which is a whole other thing, but generally it's justified by companies having a right to regulate content on their platforms based on their customer's desires not to be misinformed by charlatans.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:31 pm to TigerDoc
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it's being influenced by lots of social factors outside of the scientific community too.
Exactly.
Science in 2023 is Political.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:32 pm to TigerDoc
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and it's being influenced by lots of social factors outside of the scientific community too.
Which is when it becomes anti-science ...
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:33 pm to TigerDoc
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We're now getting into social-media content regulation which is a whole other thing,
No.
The US Govt was working WITH Social Media to push the Narrative that was being pushed by Big Pharma.
There was no distinction between the three and if not for Twitter being under new ownership, that censorship would still be dictated from the White House.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:33 pm to TigerDoc
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By the way, science greatly suffers today to to a relative lack of viewpoint diversity with respect to conservative voices
Your link certainly does, but I think you have tunnel vision. Most scientific fields aren't political at all, because physics doesn't care about your views on welfare. It's only when "social" gets injected into science that leftist politics tends to control the narrative.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:34 pm to Liberator
It seems like most of the "died suddenly" folk are athletes or otherwise very active people. I'm glad I'm a lazy bastard.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:34 pm to oogabooga68
There have always been financial incentives in science and they exist in both cases of good science and bad science. You're right that financial conflicts of interest are a major issue to address in public trust in science, but you have to have a subtler means of distinguishing trustworthiness than simply does a profit motive exist. If you apply that same mindset to business, you would likely be an arch-critic of capitalism, which I assume you aren't.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:37 pm to TigerDoc
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customer's desires not to be misinformed by charlatans.
Small example: Below is a picture of a man.
This man will never be able to breastfeed.
This man will never be able to menstruate.
These are Scientific facts.
As a whole, the Scientific Community would be too afraid to repeat these Scientific facts for fear of being burned at the stake.
If we can't establish such an obvious, easily provable baseline, why the fk should I trust ANYTHING the Scientific Community has to say?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:38 pm to TigerDoc
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If you apply that same mindset to business, you would likely be an arch-critic of capitalism, which I assume you aren't.
You don't understand capitalism.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:39 pm to TigerDoc
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but you have to have a subtler means of distinguishing trustworthiness than simply does a profit motive exist.
No, actually we don't.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:39 pm to TigerDoc
LINK - FAA lowers EKG parameters
The FAA has very quietly tacitly admitted that the EKGs of pilots are no longer normal. We should be concerned. Very concerned.
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After the vaccine rolled out, the FAA secretly widened the EKG parameter range for pilots so they wouldn't be grounded. It looks like the vax gave at least 50M Americans heart damage.
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On October 24, 2022, the FAA quietly, without any announcement at all, widened the EKG requirements necessary for pilots to be able to fly. The PR (a measure of heart function) used to be in the range of .12 to .2. It is now: .12 to .3 and potentially even higher. This is a very wide range; it accommodates people who have cardiac injury. Cardiologist Thomas Levy is appalled at this change:
The FAA has very quietly tacitly admitted that the EKGs of pilots are no longer normal. We should be concerned. Very concerned.
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After the vaccine rolled out, the FAA secretly widened the EKG parameter range for pilots so they wouldn't be grounded. It looks like the vax gave at least 50M Americans heart damage.
quote:
On October 24, 2022, the FAA quietly, without any announcement at all, widened the EKG requirements necessary for pilots to be able to fly. The PR (a measure of heart function) used to be in the range of .12 to .2. It is now: .12 to .3 and potentially even higher. This is a very wide range; it accommodates people who have cardiac injury. Cardiologist Thomas Levy is appalled at this change:
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