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I try to read NYT/WAPO to balance out the crazy I read on this board. NOTHING ab Suzy Rice
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:29 am
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:29 am
What's up with that?
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:31 am to Mac
NYT/WAPO! There's your answer, staring you in the face!
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:33 am to Mac
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NYT/WAPO
I love when people answer their own question, and they can;t even see it.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:34 am to Mac
Yea.
Morning Joe (Scarborough) even pointed that out today.
The story of Susan Rice was on page 16A.
He was like, "What does the NYT front page talk about? Bill O'Rielly. Which story is more important in the context of our nation?"
Mika chimed in, "well, that story is pretty important too".
Morning Joe (Scarborough) even pointed that out today.
The story of Susan Rice was on page 16A.
He was like, "What does the NYT front page talk about? Bill O'Rielly. Which story is more important in the context of our nation?"
Mika chimed in, "well, that story is pretty important too".
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:34 am to Mac
I looked at CNN and MSNBC as well. Not a smidgen
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:37 am to Mac
I asked Eichenwald if he was allowed to talk about Susan Rice. He didn't respond.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:37 am to BamaCoaster
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He was like, "What does the NYT front page talk about? Bill O'Rielly. Which story is more important in the context of our nation?"
They are too stupid to realize they are driving more viewership to O'Reilly by putting him in the cover.
It amazes me daily that these morons think they can hurt him.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:39 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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MSNBC
It was on the first 15 minutes of their show this morning. Joe held his own, everyone else did their usual squirming.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:41 am to Mac
They are trying to find a counter angle. A story on Trump and Russians.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:42 am to Mac
Rule of thumb is if there's a bombshell so damaging but not quite as damaging as say Comey's letter, the MSM will just ignore it and try to sweep it under the rug.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:48 am to Mac
quote:
What's up with that?
Because it is a non-issue.
frick dude, it was standard operation procedure and has been stated as such by pretty much every republican and democratic rep or senator that has been asked about it.
Russians were being monitored. U.S. people were talking to some of them. As part of her job Rice went through channels and followed protocol to find out who the U.S. person was as she was supposed to do.
This is a huge nothing burger that was only put out as a distraction by the obstructors in the white house. The senate intelligence committee republicans and democrats have basically taken a look at it and are moving on. They will make a few more inquiries, but it is obvious protocol was followed and everything done properly, so it was a 1 day distraction by Trump.
It doesn't matter how many little distractions trump throws out there, this is too big for a full investigation not to occur. If trump had nothing to hide, he would stop with the bullshite distractions and want this investigation to proceed as fast as possible to get the black cloud away ASAP. However, it appears trump has a lot to hide and he is content with this story continuing all year with his near daily attempts to delay and prolong the investigation. Most likely, it is just a matter of time before the senate investigation (which is legit, unlike the house with nunes) is complete and trumps administration has to face the music.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:52 am to Mac
WSJ has an opinion piece this morning.
Suggestive of political motivation and possible impropriety--nothing illegal. Their source explicitly states that the surveillance collected was between foreign actors discussing Trump team members or between Trump team members and foreign actors. The unmasking bit as a scandal is a cold fish.
The leaking could be another matter if something leading back to the Executive Office of the President is established.
---Begin Article---
LINK
Well, what do you know. On the matter of who “unmasked” the names of Trump transition officials in U.S. intelligence reports, we now have one answer: Susan Rice, Barack Obama’s national security adviser.
A U.S. intelligence official confirms to us the bombshell news, first reported Monday by Bloomberg, that Ms. Rice requested the name of at least one Trump transition official listed in an intelligence report in the months between Election Day and Donald Trump’s inauguration.
Ms. Rice received summaries of U.S. eavesdropping either when foreign officials were discussing the Trump team, or when foreign officials were conversing with a Trump transition member. The surveillance was legally authorized, but the identities of U.S. citizens are typically masked so they cannot be known outside intelligence circles. Ms. Rice asked for and learned the identity of the Trump official, whose name hasn’t been publicly disclosed and our source declined to share.
Our source did confirm that Ms. Rice also examined dozens of other intelligence summaries that technically masked Trump official identities but were written in such a way as to make obvious who those officials were. This means that the masking was essentially meaningless. All this is highly unusual—and troubling. Unmasking does occur, but it is typically done by intelligence or law-enforcement officials engaged in antiterror or espionage investigations. Ms. Rice would have had no obvious need to unmask Trump campaign officials other than political curiosity.
We’re told by a source who has seen the unmasked documents that they included political information about the Trump transition team’s meetings and policy intentions. We are also told that none of these documents had anything to do with Russia or the FBI investigation into ties between Russia and the Trump campaign. While we don't know if Ms. Rice requested these dozens of reports, we are told that they were only distributed to a select group of recipients—conveniently including Ms. Rice.
All of this helps to explain the actions in the last week of House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes, the one official in Washington who seems interested in pursuing the evidence of politicized surveillance. Mr. Nunes was roundly criticized by Democrats and the media last week for publicly revealing at least one instance of Obama White House unmasking, albeit without disclosing any names.
Now we know he is onto something. And we know that Mr. Nunes had to go to the White House to verify his information because the records containing Ms. Rice’s unmasking request are held at the National Security Council.
Where are the civil libertarians when you really need them? These columns support broad surveillance powers for national security, but executive officials need to be accountable if those powers are abused. If congressional oversight of U.S. intelligence operations is going to be worth the name, then it should include the unmasking of a political opponent by a senior official in the White House.
Democrats certainly raised a fuss during the Bush years and after Edward Snowden kicked off the debate about “metadata,” which are merely telephone numbers without names. Oregon Senator Ron Wyden went so far as to introduce a bill in 2013 to strengthen the ban on “reverse targeting”—in which intelligence agencies surveil foreigners but with the goal of capturing U.S. citizen communications.
Yet now that there’s evidence that the Obama Administration may have unmasked Trump officials, Democrats couldn’t care less. Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on House Intelligence, has spent the past week denouncing Mr. Nunes for revealing that a name was unmasked and for having sources at the White House. But he hasn’t raised a peep about the unmasking itself or who was behind it.
The news about Ms. Rice’s unmasking role raises a host of questions for the Senate and House intelligence committees to pursue. What specific surveillance information did Ms. Rice seek and why? Was this information related to President Obama’s decision in January to make it possible for raw intelligence to be widely disbursed throughout the government? Was this surveillance of Trump officials “incidental” collection gathered while listening to a foreigner, or were some Trump officials directly targeted, or “reverse targeted”?
We were unable to locate Ms. Rice Monday to ask for comment, and she hasn’t addressed the unmasking as far as we know. But asked last month on the “PBS NewsHour” that Trump officials might have been surveilled, she said, “I know nothing about this” and “I was surprised to see reports from Chairman Nunes on that account today.” She certainly deserves her turn under oath on Capitol Hill.
None of this should deter investigators from looking into the Trump-Russia connection. By all means follow that evidence where it leads. But the media have been running like wildebeest after that story while ignoring how the Obama Administration might have abused domestic surveillance for its political purposes. Americans deserve to know the truth about both.
Suggestive of political motivation and possible impropriety--nothing illegal. Their source explicitly states that the surveillance collected was between foreign actors discussing Trump team members or between Trump team members and foreign actors. The unmasking bit as a scandal is a cold fish.
The leaking could be another matter if something leading back to the Executive Office of the President is established.
---Begin Article---
LINK
Well, what do you know. On the matter of who “unmasked” the names of Trump transition officials in U.S. intelligence reports, we now have one answer: Susan Rice, Barack Obama’s national security adviser.
A U.S. intelligence official confirms to us the bombshell news, first reported Monday by Bloomberg, that Ms. Rice requested the name of at least one Trump transition official listed in an intelligence report in the months between Election Day and Donald Trump’s inauguration.
Ms. Rice received summaries of U.S. eavesdropping either when foreign officials were discussing the Trump team, or when foreign officials were conversing with a Trump transition member. The surveillance was legally authorized, but the identities of U.S. citizens are typically masked so they cannot be known outside intelligence circles. Ms. Rice asked for and learned the identity of the Trump official, whose name hasn’t been publicly disclosed and our source declined to share.
Our source did confirm that Ms. Rice also examined dozens of other intelligence summaries that technically masked Trump official identities but were written in such a way as to make obvious who those officials were. This means that the masking was essentially meaningless. All this is highly unusual—and troubling. Unmasking does occur, but it is typically done by intelligence or law-enforcement officials engaged in antiterror or espionage investigations. Ms. Rice would have had no obvious need to unmask Trump campaign officials other than political curiosity.
We’re told by a source who has seen the unmasked documents that they included political information about the Trump transition team’s meetings and policy intentions. We are also told that none of these documents had anything to do with Russia or the FBI investigation into ties between Russia and the Trump campaign. While we don't know if Ms. Rice requested these dozens of reports, we are told that they were only distributed to a select group of recipients—conveniently including Ms. Rice.
All of this helps to explain the actions in the last week of House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes, the one official in Washington who seems interested in pursuing the evidence of politicized surveillance. Mr. Nunes was roundly criticized by Democrats and the media last week for publicly revealing at least one instance of Obama White House unmasking, albeit without disclosing any names.
Now we know he is onto something. And we know that Mr. Nunes had to go to the White House to verify his information because the records containing Ms. Rice’s unmasking request are held at the National Security Council.
Where are the civil libertarians when you really need them? These columns support broad surveillance powers for national security, but executive officials need to be accountable if those powers are abused. If congressional oversight of U.S. intelligence operations is going to be worth the name, then it should include the unmasking of a political opponent by a senior official in the White House.
Democrats certainly raised a fuss during the Bush years and after Edward Snowden kicked off the debate about “metadata,” which are merely telephone numbers without names. Oregon Senator Ron Wyden went so far as to introduce a bill in 2013 to strengthen the ban on “reverse targeting”—in which intelligence agencies surveil foreigners but with the goal of capturing U.S. citizen communications.
Yet now that there’s evidence that the Obama Administration may have unmasked Trump officials, Democrats couldn’t care less. Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on House Intelligence, has spent the past week denouncing Mr. Nunes for revealing that a name was unmasked and for having sources at the White House. But he hasn’t raised a peep about the unmasking itself or who was behind it.
The news about Ms. Rice’s unmasking role raises a host of questions for the Senate and House intelligence committees to pursue. What specific surveillance information did Ms. Rice seek and why? Was this information related to President Obama’s decision in January to make it possible for raw intelligence to be widely disbursed throughout the government? Was this surveillance of Trump officials “incidental” collection gathered while listening to a foreigner, or were some Trump officials directly targeted, or “reverse targeted”?
We were unable to locate Ms. Rice Monday to ask for comment, and she hasn’t addressed the unmasking as far as we know. But asked last month on the “PBS NewsHour” that Trump officials might have been surveilled, she said, “I know nothing about this” and “I was surprised to see reports from Chairman Nunes on that account today.” She certainly deserves her turn under oath on Capitol Hill.
None of this should deter investigators from looking into the Trump-Russia connection. By all means follow that evidence where it leads. But the media have been running like wildebeest after that story while ignoring how the Obama Administration might have abused domestic surveillance for its political purposes. Americans deserve to know the truth about both.
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 8:55 am
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:57 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Because it is a non-issue. frick dude, it was standard operation procedure and has been stated as such by pretty much every republican and democratic rep or senator that has been asked about it. Russians were being monitored. U.S. people were talking to some of them. As part of her job Rice went through channels and followed protocol to find out who the U.S. person was as she was supposed to do. This is a huge nothing burger that was only put out as a distraction by the obstructors in the white house. The senate intelligence committee republicans and democrats have basically taken a look at it and are moving on. They will make a few more inquiries, but it is obvious protocol was followed and everything done properly, so it was a 1 day distraction by Trump. It doesn't matter how many little distractions trump throws out there, this is too big for a full investigation not to occur. If trump had nothing to hide, he would stop with the bullshite distractions and want this investigation to proceed as fast as possible to get the black cloud away ASAP. However, it appears trump has a lot to hide and he is content with this story continuing all year with his near daily attempts to delay and prolong the investigation. Most likely, it is just a matter of time before the senate investigation (which is legit, unlike the house with nunes) is complete and trumps administration has to face the music.
And I'm sure you still believe that Benghazi was all due to people upset over a video too don't you..
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:57 am to Navytiger74
And others have said they have knowledge that it wasn't about Russia. I guess at some point we will find out which one is the truth.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:58 am to Navytiger74
quote:
The unmasking bit as a scandal is a cold fish.
quote:
The surveillance was legally authorized
quote:
whose name hasn’t been publicly disclosed
Kind of end of story. Surveillance was legally authorized and the only person who was unmasked was not even revealed or leaked.
Big nothing burger.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:02 am to Mac
They are waiting for some hard evidence. Responsible journalists don't run with a story before they have something concrete.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:04 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:How about a ban bet that there are zero ties between Trump and Russia and this is nothing more than a smear campaign?
Tiger n Miami AU83
Put your money where your ignorant mouth is.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:05 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Hahahahahaha
Keep telling yourself that buttercup
Keep telling yourself that buttercup
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