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re: I thought Ukraine was winning?

Posted on 11/28/24 at 4:52 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 4:52 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 4:53 pm to
"Lieutenant-Colonel Kent Miller, who was serving with Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe in Belgium, passed away from medical complications on November 25, 2024.

Coincidentally a statement of the Russian Defense Ministry was also made on that date: "On November 25, as a result of a missile strike on the headquarters of the Main Intelligence Directorate "Kraken" unit in the city of Kharkov, up to 40 foreign specialists, mainly from the United States.”
Posted by Narax
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

I am Pro Truth


Ironically for being Pro Truth, you post links from April pretending they represent today, you quote people who can't do basic physics.

Anything to support your world view.

Truth is not your priority here.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 5:16 pm to
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Ironically for being Pro Truth, you post links from April pretending they represent today, you quote


I just posted a link from October. You maintain that the Russian 10:1 artillery advantage never happened and all these sources are lying Don't ever call yourself a realist again
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 5:40 pm to
Ukraine has lost far more than that. Russia has probably lost less.
Posted by Narax
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 5:43 pm to
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I just posted a link from October. You maintain that the Russian 10:1 artillery advantage never happened and all these sources are lying


You posted one Ukrainian with a local view who said 10:1

Why are you now lying about what you posted?

Are you taking Ukrainians for their word now?

Are you saying the entire battlefront is 10:1?

Keep talking...
Posted by TigerAxeOK
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 6:10 pm to
The YouTube algorithms keep trying to feed me propaganda videos about Ukraine wiping the floor with Russia, too. But what little actual news is coming from the region paints a very different picture.

It's a bad and bloody conflict and a complete clusterfrick of senseless death, but Ukraine is certainly not "winning" and Russia from no perspective appears to be "losing".

The entire world would be better off if the adults had remained in charge from 2021 until now. Trump would likely have built a historic economy and an unprecedented level of national security, and be preparing to hand the reins over to President-elect Ron Desantis and VP J.D. Vance for a guaranteed 16 year future continuance of America First.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 6:37 pm to
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You posted one Ukrainian with a local view who said 10:1


I posted 4 links including a current US general stating 10:1 advantage for Russia. You made a excuse for every one and then proceeded to say there was never a 10:1 artillery advantage


Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 6:38 pm to
Maybe they can't win, but history show Russia can't either.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 6:38 pm to
Ukraine isn't winning shite. Every dollar we send them may as well be lit on fire.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

'Russian forces are making gains in Ukraine at the fastest rate since the early days of the 2022 invasion, taking an area half the size of London over the past month, analysts and war bloggers said this week'


Oh, wow.

The London metro is 607 square miles in size, which means the Russians have seized roughly 303 square miles of territory in the last month. Ukraine itself is something like 233,000 square miles in size. At that rate, Russia will have successfully overrun the entire country in about 64 years.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 7:00 pm to
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Everything you typed was complete BS but especially this. Russia now has 800k troops in Ukraine compared to the start of the War it had 250k. Russia's economy is doing better than ever.

Your first point, that Russia now has more troops in Ukraine than at the beginning of the war, does not contradict that poster. And your second point is just wrong. Pointing out that Russia’s economy is going to grow at a fast rate is like Biden claiming that he created more jobs than any other President. Sure, the economy reinflated after covid shutdowns. And the Russian economy is going from shitty to poor. Big deal!
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 7:53 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 7:57 pm to
The ot thread says russia is collapsing

Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 7:59 pm to
I bet they do. That place is like a delusional psych ward
Posted by Narax
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 8:07 pm to
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including a current US general stating 10:1 advantage for Russia.


From April stating that IF the US didn't pass a new bill to provide ammo to Ukraine THEN, Russia could have a 10:1 ammo advantage.

Did you read the article?

You know we passed that bill.

It's amazing how you act like your world will come tumbling down if you don't insult people who tell the truth.

Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

I thought Ukraine was winning?

I don’t know why you would think that
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 8:40 pm to
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if you don't insult people who tell the truth.


I gave you 4 links that said the Russians had a 10:1 advantage in artillery. Everyone knows Russia has a huge artillery advantage over Ukraine. That's why they were in South Korea today begging for artillery. Fortunately, Trump told them No


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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 8:44 pm to
Here is Zelensky saying Russia has a 10:1 advantage. You are not worth my time anymore. Legit amateur hour

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Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 10:51 pm to
Iove how people, especially on the OT refuse to believe the US doesn't have a ton of active military in UK. We are doing everything from covert raids to piloting drones and a ton planning and surveillance/recon.


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