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re: I think it's time for America to cut social security altogether (serious)
Posted on 8/13/24 at 7:39 am to slackster
Posted on 8/13/24 at 7:39 am to slackster
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People misunderstand and think their money would be there if then government hadn’t taken it, but that’s simply untrue. It’s not like we’re running out of money because of the IOUs, we’re running out because of the math.
It's just one of those SS memes, like "Get rid of it once you pay me back everything I've paid in".
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Posted on 8/13/24 at 7:41 am to SlowFlowPro
they have already spent all the money you paid in. my ss check comes from the general fund. there was no locked box.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 7:42 am to John Madden SuperFan
As long as they pay me out for all the social security tax I've paid for
Posted on 8/13/24 at 7:44 am to Dawgfanman
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It’s a big circle jerk.
Sure but it’s not being raided for pet projects like people say. That’s my point.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 7:45 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:For Decades now? Perhaps Centuries even?
They've been the generation in power supporting the stuff you're posting about (assuming it's true) for decades now.
Assuming "boomers" span from late-1946 to 1964, we've had exactly one "boomer" POTUS in all those decades boomers were "in power." If one includes all of 1946 (baby boom was not evident until late-1946), 4 POTUS's fall into that category, 3 being born in the summer of 1946. Of the recent Senate/House leaders, just one (1), Chuck Schumer, is a "boomer."
Notwithstanding, the "boomer thing" is playing convenient idiot to the government now in place.
The government now in place is not the boomers' government.
It's not the silents' government.
It's not Gen-X's government.
The government wanting you to blame others while it continues to screw you is collectively ours. You sound like you are its patsy.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 7:45 am to John Madden SuperFan
George W. Bush was the first politician with the balls to take on the problem of entitlements. His plan to privatize social security was the best idea put forward to keep America solvent in the face of huge unfunded liabilities.
Democrats skewered him over it and convinced the American public that he was going to throw granny in the street and the American public was too stupid to ask the right questions.
We'll never see another politician with the guts to try and solve our real problems.
Democrats skewered him over it and convinced the American public that he was going to throw granny in the street and the American public was too stupid to ask the right questions.
We'll never see another politician with the guts to try and solve our real problems.
This post was edited on 8/13/24 at 7:48 am
Posted on 8/13/24 at 7:47 am to John Madden SuperFan
You can frick right off leech
Oh, and get a job
Oh, and get a job
This post was edited on 8/13/24 at 7:48 am
Posted on 8/13/24 at 7:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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As opposed to paying in for 40 years and getting less than you're likely to receive?
You want more?Posted on 8/13/24 at 7:48 am to YouKnowImRight
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We'll never see another politician with the guts to try and solve our real problems.
We’re on the hook for massive cuts in the next 8 years - we won’t have a choice.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 7:50 am to NC_Tigah
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For Decades now? Perhaps Centuries even?
No. Decades.
Their time is ending and older Gen X is moving more into roles of authority to replace them.
In 15-20 years, older Millennials like myself will be moving into those roles
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The government wanting you to blame others while it continues to screw you is collectively ours. You sound like you are its patsy.
I'm proposing solutions.
Those solutions are just not palatable to people who are blaming others, as you put it.
Boomers are largely targeted because they're receiving the benefits and will reject even the slightest, most logical reforms (like a slight increase in age for eligibility). They're proposing a "frick you, I am getting mine" mentality and then blame shifting to everyone else for not solving the problem they could have solved over the past 20 years.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 7:51 am to NC_Tigah
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You want more?
COLA exists within the SS scheme, so if he's older than me, I would get more, by default.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 7:55 am to John Madden SuperFan
Hmmmmm. If I understand you correctly, you are asking me to forfeit the money I've been contributing for the last 40ish years????
How about you go frick yourself and your stupid ideas. Try harder before you post such a short sighted solution to Americas problems.
How about you go frick yourself and your stupid ideas. Try harder before you post such a short sighted solution to Americas problems.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:02 am to BigBinBR
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That’s not how the Ponzi scheme works.
I understand that it's a Ponzi Scheme and that it would cost us through the nose to shut it down, but the alternative is to let it crash completely, which voters will never allow.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:02 am to YouKnowImRight
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George W. Bush was the first politician with the balls to take on the problem of entitlements
I see that word used describing SS. It's misleading. To begin with, if a person has contributed to the fund.... Your damn right they are entitled to the benefits.
Anyone not having contributed should not be part of that conversation, such as welfare.
The issue isn't the programs, it's how they are mishandled by the corrupt, inept, dysfunctional federal government. Eliminating SS and robbing folks of their contributed money isn't going to solve anything. The same system that fricked SS will still be functioning.
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Entitlement Programs of the federal government include Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, and welfare programs. Entitlement programs are rights granted to citizens and certain non-citizens by federal law. The programs are either contributory or non-contributory
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:08 am to lake chuck fan
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The issue isn't the programs, it's how they are mishandled by the corrupt, inept, dysfunctional federal government.
The program was designed as a ponzi scheme that assumed nothing was going to change...ever. It was a socialist program that led people to think they weren't responsible for saving for their own retirement. It is a classic example of a government buying people's votes with deception and with other people's money.
The issue is the programs. We dipped our toe in the socialist pool and now we're going to drown.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:09 am to lake chuck fan
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Hmmmmm. If I understand you correctly, you are asking me to forfeit the money I've been contributing for the last 40ish years????
How about you go frick yourself and your stupid ideas. Try harder before you post such a short sighted solution to Americas problems.
And this is why nothing will get done and the SS system will collapse
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:11 am to lake chuck fan
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Entitlement Programs of the federal government include Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, and welfare programs. Entitlement programs are rights granted to citizens and certain non-citizens by federal law. The programs are either contributory or non-contributory
You just quoted from a site with this tagline:
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Make poverty and welfare understandable
AKA, leftist bullshite
That's why the defined SS the same as any other welfare program
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:18 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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You do know there is full retirement age and 62 right?
Wrong. FRA is 67. You can start taking SS at 62.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:21 am to John Madden SuperFan
The public is in favor of Social Security. At most, you may see some modest reform, such as indexing payments. Even that would face resistance.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:22 am to YouKnowImRight
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The program was designed as a ponzi scheme
The program was and is designed as an annuity , but if calling it a Ponzi scheme makes you feel smarter than more power to you.
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