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re: I mean four years of open borders We should have expected these terror attacks right?

Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:06 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:06 pm to
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Depends on who radicalized and/or supported him in this attack.


To bring the border into the discussion present the evidence that the radicalization or support is related to the border.
Posted by Veritas
Raleigh, NC
Member since Feb 2005
8938 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:06 pm to
Not if this was organized by a terror cell in the country where those terrorists crossed the border illegally.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21388 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:07 pm to
There are two facts here one you ignore 1 yes he was an American citizen and 2 there has been a huge increase of terrorists entering the country due to Biden border policy.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20919 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:07 pm to
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Why are people making threads about the border given this stance?

Because this is a politics forum and that's what people do. Some jump the gun and declare the open border was involved. Some jump the gun and declare the open border had nothing do with it.
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
15162 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:08 pm to
At this point, it’s not a glitch it’s a feature. If you haven’t been asking why they’ve allowed it to get to this point yet, you’d better start because there’s damn sure a reason. Might want to look across the pond for your answer.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20919 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:09 pm to
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To bring the border into the discussion present the evidence that the radicalization or support is related to the border.

To declare the open border has zero involvement in this attack, present your proof that not a single f'n person in this idiot's universe used the open border for anything.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
15023 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:11 pm to
Maybe if some of this shite happens to your loved ones you may have a different take.

I don’t give a shite where the frick this guy came from. He killed 15 people

frick Islam and all these frickers keep up with diversity and soon you will be in the minority. That’s what your side wants
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:11 pm to
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To declare the open border has zero involvement in this attack, present your proof that not a single f'n person in this idiot's universe used the open border for anything.


I can't, but I don't have to, as I'm keeping the discussion based on actual evidence/facts, and not imagination ignoring reality.

If, in the future, we find out the border was a variable, then I will be discussing those facts. Maintaining logic and honest analysis now does not preclude that future discussion (which is something I imagine lots of people have issues with or emotional reactions to)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:12 pm to
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Maybe if some of this shite happens to your loved ones you may have a different take.


If something terrible happens to my family that has nothing to do with the border, I promise on everything I find holy or dear I won't ramble on about the border.

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I don’t give a shite where the frick this guy came from. He killed 15 people


He's a piece of shite. I don't think anyone has said otherwise.

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frick Islam and all these frickers keep up with diversity and soon you will be in the minority. That’s what your side wants

I believe in the 1st Amendment. If you disagree, state your hatred of our Constitution clearly.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21388 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:13 pm to
All the facts are not released you’re just making shite up to support your narrative. Just frick off loser we fricking hate you.
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 6:14 pm
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
63069 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:14 pm to
Bruh. You need to hang up. You are definitely retarded
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452474 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:16 pm to
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All the facts are not released


Lack of evidence is not evidence of a conspiracy.

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you’re just making shite up to support your narrative

I have literally made nothing up.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
14757 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:16 pm to
This isnt shite. We havent seen terrorist attacks yet. Why would they attack when they can continue to stack the deck. Same thing with China.

The odds of pulling something of a major scale larger than 9/11 has only gone up with each sequential year since Brandon took office.

Now the cookie jar is about to be shut. Countless guests on the Shawn Ryan show and other podcasts that have intel agents on all know that something major is coming and that the open border will have major consequences for us.

This NOLA shite is nothing. It’s a mouse fart.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20919 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:17 pm to
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I can't, but I don't have to, as I'm keeping the discussion based on actual evidence/facts, and not imagination ignoring reality.

Okay, so I haven't read every one of your 473 posts in these threads today.

Have you argued, "we don't know whether or not the open border is an element of this attack" ... or ... have you been arguing, "the open border is not an element of this attack" - because one of those things would be true and the other is not.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
14280 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:18 pm to
Will you agree SFP that open borders has led to crimes against American?

By picking the " open borders didn't have anything to do with this incident " is YOUR opinion. It's possible that he has had contact with illegal aliens which could have helped fuel his fire and possibly funded his satanic act. You have a horrible tendency to lock in on a " POSSIBLE " minor fact and missing the big Picture that others are discussing.

Neither you nor anyone else has 100% of all the information so anyone saying this had something or had nothing to do with the incident is just voicing an opinion
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 6:21 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:20 pm to
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Will you agree SFP that open borders has led to crimes against American?

I will say people here illegally committed crimes where Americans were victims.

That is not in dispute and is a factual statement.

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It's possible that he has had contact with illegal aliens which could have helped fuel his fire

Sure. Show me the facts that establish this and we can then discuss the open border issue.

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and possibly funded his satanic act. Y

Same thing. Show me the evidence of this, and then it's logical to discuss the open borders.

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. You have a horrible tendency to lock in on a " POSSIBLE " minor fact and missing the big Picture that others are discussing.

The "big picture" is nothing more than emotionally-based hopium, at this point.

You seem to have a problem understanding what "at this point" means.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
14280 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:24 pm to
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Same thing. Show me the evidence of this, and then it's logical to discuss the open borders.


Using your logic I demand you show everyone your evidence that open borders had zero to do with this incident. Not your opinion but hard cold evidence that is indisputable.

Doing what you do to others if you don't provide this indisputable evidence then you're obviously wrong and I'm right.


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Will you agree SFP that open borders has led to crimes against American?


I will say people here illegally committed crimes where Americans were victims.


So you admit that illegal aliens coming across the borders have committed crimes against American citizens
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 6:26 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452474 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:25 pm to
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Using your logic I demand you show everyone your evidence that open borders had zero to do with this incident.

That is the opposite of logic. You can't prove a negative.

And it's also falsely stating my position.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
14280 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:28 pm to
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And it's also falsely stating my position.


It's 100% what you do to others. You demand hardcore evidence. You have been said open borders had absolutely nothing to do with the terrorist act. I'm demanding your evidence that proves that. No evidence means it's just your opinion .
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
14280 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:29 pm to
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Will you agree SFP that open borders has led to crimes against American?


I will say people here illegally committed crimes where Americans were victims.



So you admit that illegal aliens coming across the borders have committed crimes against American citizens


Put it in writing and not say " people here". Admit illegal aliens have crossed the border and caused harm. Don't be a pussyfoot
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