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re: I love how everyone is suddenly an economist when it comes to tariffs
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:01 am to extremetigerfanatic
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:01 am to extremetigerfanatic
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Do you care about our sovereignty or do you just want cheap shite?
didn't answer the question....
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:03 am to lsugolf1105
didn't answer the question....
which you are a master at
which you are a master at
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:04 am to Diamondawg
quote:
So you didn't deny the "homeless dude" part.
After 20 years, I have come to accept that strange men I will never meet enjoy talking about me having sex with other men on a political discussion board.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:05 am to jammajin
morning
could possibly be a great day for louisiana. may pay 0% in tariffs for all the product i have at the port right now. will put about $250k into the louisina economy instead of the governemnt's hands!

could possibly be a great day for louisiana. may pay 0% in tariffs for all the product i have at the port right now. will put about $250k into the louisina economy instead of the governemnt's hands!
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:28 am to meansonny
quote:Of course there is. That is where the Trump tariff case is headed next.
There isn't international law or international police to issue citations or fines.
quote:You're addressing political rationale for tariffs which is not nuance, it's simply a different topic.
Removing tariffs as a carrot/stick because of "economics" allows countries to violate every principle of free trade (or human rights) without consequence. It encourages cheating because the cheaters win
quote:
You completely miss all of the nuance.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:33 am to VOR
quote:It would be nice if you demonstrated that.
I can apply critical thinking and logic
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:44 am to jammajin
quote:
didn't answer the question....
which you are a master at
which one didn't i answer? may have missed it.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:48 am to 4cubbies
quote:That reads funny, I suppose you mean "After 20 years, I have come to accept that strange men on a political discussion board I will never meet, enjoy talking about me having sex with other men"?
After 20 years, I have come to accept that strange men I will never meet enjoy talking about me having sex with other men on a political discussion board.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:49 am to DyeHardDylan
Remember, the experts abounded when he first started enacting the tariffs. Then the tariffs worked and they STFU. They’ll STFU again.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:51 am to lsugolf1105
quote:You tariff those products at the rate you tariff the rest of the country's output.
what about an american company that owns a manufacturing plant in asia that builds products for that american company? and these products are not made competitively in the usa. do we raise tariffs 300% to force that company to bring back the manufacturing to the usa?
quote:
which one didn't i answer? may have missed it.
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Do you care about our sovereignty or do you just want cheap shite?
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:57 am to HagaDaga
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She acts like Trump has never talked about tariffs and just learned about them
Whether you agree with the tariffs or not, Trump has been preaching them since the 80s. For four decades he's been saying the exact same thing when it comes to tariffs.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:59 am to NC_Tigah
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You tariff those products at the rate you tariff the rest of the country's output.
ok. then that plant in asia stays and the american company continues with overseas manufacturing. but now the product costs them more.
quote:
Do you care about our sovereignty or do you just want cheap shite?
both
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:25 am to lsugolf1105
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could possibly be a great day for louisiana. may pay 0% in tariffs for all the product i have at the port right now. will put about $250k into the louisina economy instead of the governemnt's hands!
well, looks like today will not be the day. "U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) has yet to update its Cargo System Management Service to remove the duties imposed by Trump under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA)." we will wait until tomorrow to release the containers. let's hope tomorrow is the day!
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:26 am to DyeHardDylan
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The same progressives who think an income tax of 50% or more for top earners is a great idea also say that 10-15% reciprocal tariffs are a tax and devastating to the economy. Progressives were all about some protectionism before Trump.
The first is progressive and the second is regressive. Also, it is not true that progressives were protectionist before Trump. They dropped their protectionism with the implementation of NAFTA. Bill Clinton ratified NAFTA.
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The agreement's supporters included 132 Republicans and 102 Democrats. The bill passed the Senate on November 20, 1993, 61–38.[19] Senate supporters were 34 Republicans and 27 Democrats.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:42 am to lsugolf1105
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what about an american company that owns a manufacturing plant in asia that builds products for that american company?
There are no American companies in China. They have to divest ownership.
And yes... you punish the entire country for not protecting intellectual property. These aren't 1 time occurrences. The laws of economics anticipate that they will continually violate property rights when they get away with it (economics is the study of human behavior with financial incentives).
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:43 am to lsugolf1105
If I have to explain my comment then the person who doesnt understand tariffs is you.
If you care about sovereignty and not allowing the US to get in a place where we rely on other countries (that seem to hate us) for our necessities- yes raise the tariffs and bring manufacturing home.
If just want cheap shite- don’t raise them.
There the answer to your question.
If you care about sovereignty and not allowing the US to get in a place where we rely on other countries (that seem to hate us) for our necessities- yes raise the tariffs and bring manufacturing home.
If just want cheap shite- don’t raise them.
There the answer to your question.
This post was edited on 2/23/26 at 10:44 am
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:48 am to extremetigerfanatic
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If I have to explain my comment then the person who doesnt understand tariffs is you.
If you care about sovereignty and not allowing the US to get in a place where we rely on other countries (that seem to hate us) for our necessities- yes raise the tariffs and bring manufacturing home.
If just want cheap shite- don’t raise them.
There the answer to your question.
it will never be one or the other. you know this.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:55 am to NC_Tigah
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quote:
There isn't international law or international police to issue citations or fines.
Of course there is. That is where the Trump tariff case is headed next.
That's funny.
Im imagining Benny Hill cops running around with their funny hats and batons chasing down global "bad actors" to that funny music.
Morgan Freeman's quote in Shawshank best pegs what international law truly is.
Violation of international law
is a politician's word, so young fellas like yourself can wear a suit and a tie, and have a job"
There is never any enforcement. There aren't any teeth.
The teeth come from those with the ability to inflict consequences. Real meaningful consequences. Like Trump's tariffs.
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You're addressing political rationale for tariffs which is not nuance, it's simply a different topic.
Tariffs are tariffs. Just like taxes are taxes. Exports are exports. Imports are imports. There is always nuance (political, social, financial). You can dip your head in the sand and sing Lala all you want. But tariffs are a stick. Or a carrot.
Economics is the study of human behavior within a system of financial incentives. The entire field of economics holds the nuance.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:57 am to meansonny
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There are no American companies in China. They have to divest ownership.
not talking about china.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:58 am to DyeHardDylan
I (thanks to the myriad of voices in my head) am an expert at everything, thank you. /s
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