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Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:33 am to
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:33 am to
I could be wrong, but I’m pretty confident 50% of Russians don’t believe Putin is owned by China.

I’m also pretty sure no kool-aid hair transvestites are having drag queen story hour at libraries is Russia.

I don’t think there are BLM or Antifa type factions of the Russian population.

We just need to Balkanize
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 7:38 am
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 7:42 am to
Putin is a killer.But at least he's honest about it it.

I respect what he's been able to accomplish after drunk Yeltson(sp) ransacked the economy.
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 7:43 am
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:34 am to
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I was pointing out that people here admire him because he unabashedly pursues Russian interests unlike our leaders.



Putin pursues his interests and embraces Russian nationalism because it furthers his interests.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:49 am to
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Much of that Russian loot after he kicked the American bandits out went in Putin's pockets, but the Russian people know that and accept it. It is a trade off for them. They accept it as long as they have a strong authoritative figure that brings order to the country. Putin did that.



Putin has clamped down on any possible opposition movement. You certainly don't know this.

quote:

It is all a racket, as long as certain segments of the US can go in and loot and steal, or at least establish an environment in a country where they get rich, we are friends with them.


You really think the Russians are any different?
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:19 am to
Explain what happened to all of that money that disappeared in Ukraine.

Are you denying that Russia was looted by pirates during the Yeltsin years?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:05 am to
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Putin has clamped down on any possible opposition movement. You certainly don't know this.


European Russians don’t like Putin.

They still see Europe as culturally superior, and they’re attracted by the material wealth of the West. Their job prospects are limited in Russia, which is a major source of pain. They want our lifestyle, but they understand it’s impossible to have that in Russia. It’s there, the restaurants, the shops, but they’ll never be able to afford it. You’re going to a fun bar in Moscow, or a really nice restaurant, but maybe only once a month, because you simply can’t afford to do it more often.

This is why they emigrate in such high numbers.

European Russians are a only portion of society though. Putin is genuinely popular among the non-European Russians.

Not to contradict myself, but I was speaking with a Belorussian and he praised Putin for forcing an oligarch to keep a factory open, saving the jobs of the employees. And that attitude is common. For many Russians, Putin is the Tsar, and a force that protects them from everything from the oligarchs, to the local mayor who’s hell bent on stealing everything in sight.

I’ve written about it before, but Putin does a national call in show, where citizens can petition him for help. It’s a ritual out of antiquity, the peasants coming to court to petition the king.

People usually don’t talk about politics, in my experience. They see that as dumb. You can pay a real price if you offend the wrong person.

Succession is the biggest problem with Putin’s system. Putin has sidelined potential rivals, which is understandable, but those rivals are probably the only people who could fill the void when he leaves office.
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 11:12 am
Posted by LetsgoGamecocks
Member since Sep 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:09 am to
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I actually trust him more than the democrats, and certainly more than the media.


We should apologize for all the lies the democrats told about him. To be honest how would you feel if they accused you of all those things?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:19 am to
One of my professors knew him a little. My professor was teaching in Saint Petersburg, and Putin was a local official at the time. There were some paperwork problems, and Putin sorted them out.

He described Putin as a nice person. He was funny.

With his background in intelligence, you can assume Putin has a strong sense of empathy, you need that to function as a covert officer. You’re in the business of understanding people, and leveraging their flaws into betrayal. To do that, you have to be able to see the world through their eyes. You also need a stone heart.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:28 am to
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Are you denying that Russia was looted by pirates during the Yeltsin years?



Absolutely not. But the Bush policy, expressed in the Wolfowitz Doctrine, was clear about what the West was going to do. They were putting their offensive realism into practice, as they took what they could from a group they perceived to be their enemy, and it was up to that enemy to stop them. I'm not saying that this is good, I'm saying that pursuing goals that would sideline Russia forever was the explicit policy of the West and still is. I'm certainly not saying that it was a good idea though.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:35 am to
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Putin has been trying to restore the USSR for a long time. He is quite literally a communist in the spirit of communist leaders of Soviet and Chinese past

so have the Democrats trying to restore the USSR with a side of the Third Reich
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:36 am to
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I like Putin
I always have.


Cults are something else....
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6402 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:38 am to
We live in a world upside down

Putin? No Patriot to our great country would be in favor of that guy in any way. Now that I said that I have to watch crossing bridges like all his critics. Bama needs to secede.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:39 am to
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Succession is the biggest problem with Putin’s system. Putin has sidelined potential rivals, which is understandable, but those rivals are probably the only people who could fill the void when he leaves office.



That's a good point. Unless the line of succession is clear, the power struggle might be a serious crisis.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62614 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:39 am to
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Putin? No Patriot to our great country would be in favor of that guy in any way.


Why?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28141 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:42 am to
144 up votes?

God almighty.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23380 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:48 am to
I'd take Putin over Biden or Harris....LOL
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 11:49 am
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27636 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:53 am to
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I actually trust him more than the democrats, and certainly more than the media.

This means that Russian propaganda has worked its magic on you. You need to re-evaluate your belief system.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26361 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:54 am to
Putin sure as hell doesn't embrace freedom in his country like conservatives do in the USA. The best thing about Putin is that he pulled out of the DS's New World Order crap.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:54 am to
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In summary, Putin isn't part of the New World Order. So he has to be vilified.


Yes.

Under the USSR, Russians lived under state-sanctioned/enforced atheism. Russian culture was nearly destroyed.

Putin rejects Globohomo. The Eastern Orthodox church is thriving and growing in Russia.

Of course the globalist cabal hates him.
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 11:55 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42426 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:54 am to
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I was pointing out that people here admire him because he unabashedly pursues Russian interests unlike our leaders.


quote:

Putin pursues his interests and embraces Russian nationalism because it furthers his interests.


These are not mutually exclusive. Both can be true.
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