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re: I keep reading headlines about local communities opposing data centers
Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:37 pm to slackster
Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:37 pm to slackster
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The water stuff is weird. Most of it is just evaporated back into the atmosphere.
I don’t know if this is true or not, and I don’t care enough to do any meaningful research on it, so I mention this with the disclaimer that I am admittedly, ignorant to the topic.
I have heard that these data centers, just to get started working, take in a one-time, large volume of water. But in general, they recirculate that water, and don’t continue to take in water from local resources.
If that’s true, I can see where the general public might be confused, thinking these data centers will continually use up local water resources
Anyone who knows more can tell me I’m full of shite. I’m not afraid to be wrong.
All that said, none of it means that I am either for or against data centers.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:39 pm to junkyarddawg3
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I can see where the general public might be confused, thinking these data centers will continually use up local water resources
That is being pushed on purpose.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:41 pm to Centinel
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Also no.
AI says:
"Yes, data centers use substantial amounts of water, with large facilities consuming between 1 million and 5 million gallons per day, comparable to a town of 30,000 to 50,000 residents. This water is primarily used for cooling servers to prevent overheating, especially in regions with high temperatures or through evaporation in cooling towers."
"Yes, data centers are very loud, producing a constant, high-pitched whine or low-frequency hum that often reaches 80-90+ decibels. The noise is caused by thousands of servers' cooling fans and large HVAC units operating 24/7. This creates significant, chronic noise pollution for nearby communities, with noise audible from up to two miles away."
Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:42 pm to Stealth Matrix
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And they're very loud.
You're thinking of ASIC miners
Not the same as data centers
Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:48 pm to Wildcat1996
In my area at least what I've noticed is the county commissioner who so gleefully approved one being built right next to where I live sure hasn't requested or approved one to be built next to his. Tells me all I need to know
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:50 pm to Wildcat1996
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I keep reading headlines about local communities opposing data centers
What are the legitimate concerns about their impact?
Oftentimes, underneath the headline, is a thing called an article. It's a few paragraphs of text that you can read, in order to get more context on the headline.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:59 pm to Centinel
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Energy, potentially. Water, no.
Ah, I just kicked some uniformed arse on this topic, so here we go again
Data centers consume energy and water (direct and indirect).
Data center proliferation has become a negative subject for many communties being impacted by them.
Meta's new Louisiana plant is going to be more water efficient, claiming it will consume the same amount of water the farmland used they purchased to build the data center. Like Colossus, they will be building a waste water treatment plant to use for the outer loop, this is where the heat for the inner closed loop is dumped. This is also where evap will happen and water loss occurs and needs to be replenished.
Looks like this new data center will require 2.5GW of power, which is more than the entire city of New Orleans maybe. It will require 3 new gas plants to be built. Gas plants are going to waste water, so this newest data center in the great state of Louisiana combined with gas plants will lose
2.6 B gal/year to 10.2 B gal/year
Meta’s Louisiana AI complex will waste an amount of water equal to -
17% to 65% of the entire daily water usage of Baton Rouge, LA.
Up to two-thirds of a major U.S. city’s total water consumption evaporated every day
just to run one data center and the fossil-fuel power plants needed to power it.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:04 pm to LemmyLives
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Oftentimes, underneath the headline, is a thing called an article. It's a few paragraphs of text that you can read, in order to get more context on the headline.
And yet we got diametrically opposed views in only 12 replies on this thread. And besides, I thought we didn't trust the MSM anyway.
But go on with the condescension if it makes your pee pee feel a little longer.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:06 pm to FLTech
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Everybody who is complaining about data centers use Chat GPT, Grok, X, Google or YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, Netflix, phone apps every single day.
This is a very strong point. Everyone wants the benefits of high processing capacity, but no one wants to pay for it or have it in their back yard.
The same is often said for oil refineries and power plants. Everyone wants cheap gas and electricity as long as it is generated in someone else's back yard.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:08 pm to Wildcat1996
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The same is often said for oil refineries and power plants. Everyone wants cheap gas and electricity as long as it is generated in someone else's back yard.
Yeah...not wanting a refinery built next to your neighborhood doesn't make you a hypocrite for driving a car.
It makes you a normal person.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:09 pm to Wildcat1996
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I thought we didn't trust the MSM anyway.
That's why you read articles from multiple sources, including the MSM.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:09 pm to Wildcat1996
I get that concept, I do.
But you need fuel to go to work. The people who will benefit from the 50th Claude model's training aren't (directly) you or I. It makes sense that people question the value of breakneck, high-resource innovation to their lives.
But you need fuel to go to work. The people who will benefit from the 50th Claude model's training aren't (directly) you or I. It makes sense that people question the value of breakneck, high-resource innovation to their lives.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:11 pm to Powerman
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not wanting a refinery built next to your neighborhood doesn't make you a hypocrite for driving a car.
They have to go somewhere or you can't drive your car.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:11 pm to Wildcat1996
Entergy has two spare generators in Bogalusa that are currently for overload capacity, but I'm waiting on that to get recognized and someone suggest we build a data center. The local nearby neighborhood that's full of mill employees will bitch and raise hell, all the while not recognizing that they work at a stinking arse papermill.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:13 pm to how333
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they are an extreme drain on energy and water resources
Unlike the oil refineries.
Found the libtard anti-fossil fuels nerd.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:16 pm to Powerman
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The same is often said for oil refineries and power plants. Everyone wants cheap gas and electricity as long as it is generated in someone else's back yard.
Yeah...not wanting a refinery built next to your neighborhood doesn't make you a hypocrite for driving a car.
It makes you a NIMBY
Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:17 pm to SallysHuman
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Resource Hogs. Higher utility bills.
Noise pollution. Destroyed property values.
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