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re: I just don't understand why in the 50s and 60s these shootings were extremely rare.

Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:35 pm to
Posted by steadytiger
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:35 pm to
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Back when divorce was rare, and feminism hadn't destroyed marriage.

America was 90% Caucasian/Christian.

The Left tells me all of the above conditions were "the bad old days" yet we didn't create mass-murdering spree-killers by the dozens every year.

Kids could play in their neighborhoods without constant supervision because the society was so high-trust and people were so decent.

What happened?




At the risk of being called a nut job, have you noticed almost all of the shooters are atheists, or nut job Christians? But Christians wuld not commit such atrocities with the prospect of being killed and dammed to everlasting hell all in one fell swoop. The loss of faith has a lot to do with it, along with the loosening of the moral fabric of the people.
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:35 pm to
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When was the AR-15 developed?

after the 1950s
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92781 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:36 pm to
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you mean before a majority of weapons we have readily available today were readily available. boy i wonder why.




The ar 15 was introduced in 63 lol
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:36 pm to
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The loss of faith has a lot to do with it, along with the loosening of the moral fabric of the people.

Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22245 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:36 pm to
For all the benefits that social media & 24/7 news provide, I think they absolutely distort and desensitize reality. Sure, we’re more connected and informed than ever but how genuine is that?

I don’t think humans are designed to process that amount of information efficiently.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:37 pm to
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The ar 15 was introduced in 63 lol

and i'm sure the first thing they did was mass-market it to the civilian population
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 4:38 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:38 pm to
You do realize .223, which is all an AR is, has been around since the 60s?

What is the difference in a .223 semi auto deer rifle and an AR15? Care to tell us?
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:39 pm to
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You do realize .223, which is all an AR is, has been around since the 60s?

of course, do you think the percentage of homes that owned one was as high in 1965 as it was 30 years later?

Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:39 pm to
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What happened?



Feds took over the schools. Poisoned the kids minds and then made them gun free zones.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:40 pm to
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after the 1950s


Does this year fall within the "50's and 60's" as mentioned by the OP?

Yes or no?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92781 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:40 pm to
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and i'm sure the first thing they did was mass-market it to the civilian population


What does this have to do with your fail in this thread
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179061 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:42 pm to
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and i'm sure the first thing they did was mass-market it to the civilian population





Nah...30-06 and .30-30 were pretty popular back then and readily available. Why didn't people just use those to pull off mass shootings?

The Austin tower shooter used a Remington 700 chambered in .6mm in 1962.

Point is, there was always an option for someone who wanted to pull this off to do so. Nothing about AR15s has changed that so stop blaming firearms.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179061 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:44 pm to
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of course, do you think the percentage of homes that owned one was as high in 1965 as it was 30 years later?





You think kids back then didn't have access to their dads rifles?

You also didn't answer my question of what the difference is in a .223 deer rifle vs an AR15.
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:45 pm to
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What does this have to do with your fail in this thread

what does how many guns were in circulation have to do with the rate of violence then vs now?

lol. wow
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:46 pm to
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You also didn't answer my question of what the difference is in a .223 deer rifle vs an AR15.

because you're trying to straw man me lol
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
15968 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:47 pm to
There are more guns now and the rate of violence is actually less.

This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:48 pm to
I'm not talking about just crime rates. Divorce, family values, abortion, drug addiction, etc all plays a role in tearing families apart and that in turn makes the country weaker.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179061 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:48 pm to
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because you're trying to straw man me lol



No I am not. It's a legit question since you are blaming the AR15 as the boogeyman just like every other idiot does.

You also ignored my other question about do you not think kids in the 60s had access to their dads rifles.

Why are you ignoring points of my counterargument? Is it because you know your argument is based on lies and/or bullshite? Nah...couldn't be that.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69206 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:49 pm to
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the 50s and 60s were the 1990s?


The explosion in school shootings didn't occur until after Columbine in 1996.

Besides, most of the weapons used in school shootings are simple pistols, shotguns, and hunting rifles that were even more readily available in 1960 than they are now.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293836 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:49 pm to
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do you think the percentage of homes that owned one was as high in 1965 as it was 30 years later?


Is a .223 a particularly mean round compared to say... a 30.06?
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