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re: I hope everyone realizes how much of a "mask off moment" Charlie Kirk's assassination was

Posted on 9/13/25 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by SlidellCajun
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Posted on 9/13/25 at 3:28 pm to
Yes, I think bearing false witness can be a sin when done with harmful intent
This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 8:36 am
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 9/13/25 at 3:29 pm to
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Yes, I think beating false witness is a sin


Say someone were in Nazi Gernany and lied to a Nazi soldier about not having seen any Jews while knowingly hiding them in their home.

Is that immoral or sinful?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27031 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 3:31 pm to
I am curious, the 5 downvoters... Why did you downvote?
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 9/13/25 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

Say someone were in Nazi Gernany and lied to a Nazi soldier about not having seen any Jews while knowingly hiding them in their home. Is that immoral or sinful?


I don’t think so
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27031 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 6:13 pm to
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I don’t think so


That's the ends justifying the means.

Lying is bad, but the outcome, the ends, justifies the bad.

So again. We all agree, to some extend, that the ends justify the means. We just draw the lines at different spots.
Posted by SlidellCajun
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Posted on 9/13/25 at 7:00 pm to
Do you think Kirk was a Nazi or bad person deserving of killing ?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27031 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 7:19 pm to
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Do you think Kirk was a Nazi or bad person deserving of killing ?


No. Read the OP. Why would you ask that?
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/13/25 at 7:21 pm to
Remember, that is the average next door Democrat. They are ALL like that.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/13/25 at 7:23 pm to
Leftists have really shown their true selves the last few days and I think moderates have taken notice.

quote:

Don't assume the progressive who is kindly speaking with you on these topics doesn't actually want you dead.


The events of the last few days has shown this to be true.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26099 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 7:23 pm to
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This ideology cannot be allowed to win. No matter what.


I think people finally realize this. If they are willingly and cheerfully murdering one of the most moderate voices from the right, what do you think they'd do to us peasants?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 9/13/25 at 7:26 pm to
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what do you think they'd do to us peasants?


It involves reeducation camps, and if that doesn't work, guns, a brick wall, and a big pit.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/13/25 at 8:09 pm to
For 10 years now, they've been trying to tell us who they were. It's on us for not believing them.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
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16095 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 8:30 pm to
I contend that the Ends do not justify the means in all circumstances and it seems as though you disagree

Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27031 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 8:32 pm to
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I contend that the Ends do not justify the means in all circumstances and it seems as though you disagree


You disagree with that too. You said that lying is a sin, but because of a bad end (people dying) you'd change your opinion on lying for that instance, and think that it's actually good.

That is an end justifying the mean (lying).
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
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Posted on 9/13/25 at 9:08 pm to
Lying is not a sin if it saves an innocent life.

Killing is not a suitable means to end a voice that you disagree with.

There’s a faction within the democrat party that believes that killing is acceptable if it removes a voice that they don’t agree with.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27031 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 9:09 pm to
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Lying is not a sin if it saves an innocent life.


Scripture stating that?
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/13/25 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

This ideology cannot be allowed to win. No matter what.
quote:

For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
quote:

Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16095 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:28 am to
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Scripture stating that?


Not that I’m aware of
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:30 am to
If 2020 wasn’t, I don’t know what else to say but this could do it.
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