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re: I don't think Liberals want what's best for America

Posted on 4/22/18 at 8:07 am to
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 8:07 am to
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I said I don’t believe in abortion. However, I believe it’s a woman’s right to choose...ultimately that’s between her and her maker. What’s so hard for Republicans to grasp?


It’s not hard for anyone to grasp and not all Democrats support abortion just like not all republicans are against abortion. You are trying to frame the argument like yours is the only reasonable one and everyone else isn’t as smart as you.

Also, in matters of life or death, leaving it up to a selfish convenience choice is evil and absolutely needs to be fought at every turn. You Acting like abortion is just another issue like a tax cut or other irrelevant political issue is disingenuous at the least or intentionally intellectually dishonest.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11154 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 8:09 am to

This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 8:44 pm
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6839 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 8:16 am to
Not going to read through the previous 140 something replies, so SIAP.
Huge difference between classic liberalism and progressivism. Classic liberalism embraces the 1st and 2nd ammendment, as well as, individual freedom, freedom of religion, due process and equality under the law; it more closely identifies with current Libertarians.
The progressive movement is not an American movement...it is a global movement meant to remove the greatest impediment to globalization.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11154 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 8:22 am to
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This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 8:43 pm
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 8:46 am to
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Its unfortunate however that your manner of expressing these views and your personal attacks on those of other beliefs prevent any meaningful discourse from occurring.


Right. This was a kind, civil, almost collegial place for the airing of reasonable differences before I came along . . . .

I’m just playing the game from the left that the old timers here play from the right. And that is why they are butthurt. And that is why they’ve skulked away into downvote lurking from the shadows.

Make a substantive point. I’ll respond substantively and rationally. I have every time.

Try to use the usual tactics of this board — ridicule and twisting — and I’ll come at you with fire and fury.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 8:58 am to
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WillieNelsonsDoobie


I'm sorry but I accidentally upvoted this douchebag pedocrat.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14172 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 10:47 am to
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Secondly, a law BY DEFINITION is imposing beliefs on others. A law that forbids me from stealing your wallet is imposing on me society's belief that theft is wrong.

That law forbids stealing because stealing infringes on the rights of others, and which law is necessary for the society to function.

You call that a societal belief and inject the concept of right and wrong to fit your belief/argument.
Posted by toddzilla
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Nov 2012
1587 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 11:39 am to
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There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp [of the mind] for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution.


These are the ones that read “Brave New World” and thought that it was a cool idea...
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35884 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 11:44 am to
they're not liberals

they're leftists

stop complementing them by calling them liberals
Posted by WillieNelsonsDoobie
Bogata
Member since May 2014
1427 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 11:53 am to
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I'm sorry but I accidentally upvoted this douchebag pedocrat.


That’s what’s awesome about this board...if you can’t beat them..then call them a name. Very Trump-like. Melania is doing an awesome job with her bullying campaign. Isn’t she just the worst First Lady ever?
This post was edited on 4/22/18 at 11:54 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69278 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 11:55 am to
If you don’t cut it out, I’m taking my grievances against you to the help board


You can’t act like this and not face punishment
Posted by WillieNelsonsDoobie
Bogata
Member since May 2014
1427 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 12:29 pm to
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If you don’t cut it out, I’m taking my grievances against you to the help board You can’t act like this and not face punishment


Act like what? Bringing truth to the board? I thought it was a fun place to verbally spar, not melt.
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 12:42 pm to
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These are the ones that read “Brave New World” and thought that it was a cool idea...


As a contemporary and one who fraternized with and shared a real meeting-of-the-minds with the original Frankfurt School cadre of neo-Marxists, the guy who wrote it had absolutely no problem with such dystopianism taking over the West.

Even considering the legion of rabid acolytes they're responsible for producing over the years, those "originals" remain the "founding fathers" of the Leftivists you see rampant now — most of whom are not even aware of the cabal who actually conceptualized the undermining, counter-cultural "principles" that fuel their reason for existing.



Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 4:49 pm to
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Give it a shot. Start posting them.


You have got to be kidding me. LOL just when I think you guys couldn't get any more fricking disingenuous.

here you go
This post was edited on 4/22/18 at 5:17 pm
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