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re: I can accept that Putin wanted Trump to win, but
Posted on 1/7/17 at 4:12 pm to baybeefeetz
Posted on 1/7/17 at 4:12 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:Or, maybe Hillary was just worse?
But the media doesn't seem to be discussing why Trump is better for Russia.
You are right though. There is no interest in the reality that the bottom line is, they've basically acknowledged that all the leaked shite was true.
Yet, they care not about the content nor the why of it being released.
If they were being honest, they'd be forced to acknowledge some realities.
1)Nations seek to influence every single one of our elections. This is actually pretty much normal and common.
2)Influence =/= violating the integrity of the election. ALL information that comes out during an election "influences" the election. Having 10 women claim sexual assault only to disappear from the face of the planet "influenced" the election.
3)The bottom line is, the info was true. Every retort beyond that is nonsense. For example.
A)"But they were one sided". Really? So, we here in America have suddenly decided that if we get TRUE information from a source, we should disregard it if that source didn't give us true bad info about both sides? When did this standard start?
B)But it's "foreign" influence. Well, not for nothing folks, but I'm gonna break some news to you. The fact some foreign leader doesn't shoot straight with should bother you A LOT less than the fact that on election night, every individual on every major network practically fell into tears. You think THEY have been shooting straight with you? Shouldn't it bother you MORE that the leaks CLEARLY indicate that most of the major networks have become defacto arms of the Dem party?
This is the silliness. The whole Russian thing, even if I believed every last accusation against them, shouldn't actually merit a blip of concern. OK. True bad info came out about one of the candidates. So?
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Posted on 1/7/17 at 4:30 pm to baybeefeetz
I heard there were supposed nefarious actions going on in mid 2015. If so,why didn't they nip it in the bud then?
The DNCs shite cyber security/negligence should be the biggest story.
The DNCs shite cyber security/negligence should be the biggest story.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 4:30 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:Because, Russians.
...why.
Duh.
And you are a racist who hates America. And women.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 4:36 pm to baybeefeetz
Because Putin said war was likely if Clinton was elected. Putin wanted Trump to win because he didn't want war.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 4:59 pm to Chimlim
Slate discusses the unclassified US intelligence report:
He's thin-skinned and wanted to inflict revenge. Stay tuned for more of that kind of shite in the current political climate.
No one is trying to do good for his country; everyone just wants to frick the other side.
quote:
As for Moscow’s primary motive, the report states, “Putin most likely wanted to discredit Secretary Clinton because he has publicly blamed her since 2011 for inciting mass protests against his regime … and because he holds a grudge for comments he almost certainly saw as disparaging him.”
He's thin-skinned and wanted to inflict revenge. Stay tuned for more of that kind of shite in the current political climate.
No one is trying to do good for his country; everyone just wants to frick the other side.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 5:01 pm to Cruiserhog
quote:But Putin had already demonstrated on the world stage that he could manipulate Hillary.
Putin wanted Trump to win because he can manipulate him and apparently its working
Posted on 1/7/17 at 5:03 pm to Twenty 49
Slate is shite and their conclusions cannot be taken seriously.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 5:06 pm to baybeefeetz
A.) Trump's knowledge of foreign policy is shite. Regardless of your feelings for HRC, she knows more than damn near anyone in terms of foreign policy. Russia would prefer not to mess with her.
B.) trump publicly wondered if we should just go ahead and "give" the Crimea to Russia.
C.) When Putin "flattered" trump by saying " he's really something" or similar generic praise, Trump, hungry for approval, assumed aputin was complimenting him...he wasn't, he was just being PC. Trump fell for it.
D.) the thinnest skin.
B.) trump publicly wondered if we should just go ahead and "give" the Crimea to Russia.
C.) When Putin "flattered" trump by saying " he's really something" or similar generic praise, Trump, hungry for approval, assumed aputin was complimenting him...he wasn't, he was just being PC. Trump fell for it.
D.) the thinnest skin.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 5:09 pm to a want
quote:LOL. Hillary knows buzzwords and the names of players. She doesn't UNDERSTAND shite. You give her way too much credit.
Regardless of your feelings for HRC, she knows more than damn near anyone in terms of foreign policy.
quote:Russia has been messing with Clinton for a long time. Putin buttfricked her with the reset button and got us to cancel the missile defense shield.
Russia would prefer not to mess with her.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 5:10 pm to Cruiserhog
Eric trump said they have no assists in russia.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 5:13 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
LOL. Hillary knows buzzwords and the names of players. She doesn't UNDERSTAND shite. You give her way too much credit.
In the age of trump you can say anything you want and it will be true. Back on earth however.....
Posted on 1/7/17 at 5:14 pm to a want
She was the architect of the Libyan war. What was the purpose of that war, what were the repercussions, what was the outcome?
Posted on 1/7/17 at 5:14 pm to a want
quote:
Regardless of your feelings for HRC, she knows more than damn near anyone in terms of foreign policy. Russia would prefer not to mess with her.
What did she accomplish while SoS other than turning tME into a bigger shite storm that her family could profit from?
Posted on 1/7/17 at 5:15 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Pick a goalpost and stick with it
Posted on 1/7/17 at 5:17 pm to a want
It's a perfect demonstration of her foreign policy ineptitude
Posted on 1/7/17 at 5:17 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:
1. WHY did Putin want Trump to win over Hillary
I suspect he believes Trump's demeanor, lack of political experience and belief that Russia is a "friend" will work to his nation's advantage.
Hillary was vocal about the election corruption in Russia and she supported heavy Russian sanctions.
This post was edited on 1/7/17 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 1/7/17 at 5:18 pm to a want
quote:
Trump's knowledge of foreign policy is shite. Regardless of your feelings for HRC, she knows more than damn near anyone in terms of foreign policy. Russia would prefer not to mess with he
Clinton supported war in Bosnia and Kosovo, supported the AUMF and the War on Terror, voted for the war in Iraq, supported the war in Lybia, supported the drone bomb campaigns in Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan and supports America fighting in Syria against both Assad and ISIL.
Her knowledge is based on her own belief in neoliberalism, which means she would send American soldiers to die in the Middle East for the benefit of the Gulf States, which conveniently gave her and her husband's foundation millions of dollars.
There is not a question in my mind that Trump values the lives of his countrymen more than Clinton's evil arse.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 5:24 pm to a want
quote:
she knows more than damn near anyone in terms of foreign policy. Russia would prefer not to mess with her.
LOL. Articulates this purely made up factoid then, comments to another poster about being able to say anything and claim it's "true".
Posted on 1/7/17 at 5:25 pm to SCLibertarian
You had me until
Trump would not piss on you if you were on fire because you didn't pay him first.
As bad as Clinton is, I can't begin to comprehend how anyone could think trump cares about anyone other than himself. What planet are you on? Do you remember the things he said about John McCain and the Kahn family? He doesn't give a flying frick about anyone but himself.
quote:
There is not a question in my mind that Trump values the lives of his countrymen more than Clinton's evil arse.
Trump would not piss on you if you were on fire because you didn't pay him first.
As bad as Clinton is, I can't begin to comprehend how anyone could think trump cares about anyone other than himself. What planet are you on? Do you remember the things he said about John McCain and the Kahn family? He doesn't give a flying frick about anyone but himself.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 5:27 pm to baybeefeetz
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