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I am the Department of Education: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!

Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:18 pm
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:18 pm


This is a strange graph. What did they mean by this? Are they saying we need more funding for education to improve?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:19 pm to
Yes....throwing money at something always works.....says politards
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32579 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:20 pm to
But on the bright side, look at all of those employees!
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:20 pm to
Savage
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:21 pm to
it's so awesome!

by enlarging that federal bureaucracy they have created jobs!

and saved the economy!
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29413 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:22 pm to
Wow, such efficiency and impressive results!
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
Member since Jul 2016
3724 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:23 pm to
It's gotta be all those kids from middle class, nuclear families dragging down the mean . . .
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:24 pm to
Cato institute? I'd like to see the raw data please.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:24 pm to
Kind of upsets me with all the property Tax I pay. Even still, we home school.
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:25 pm to
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Cato institute? I'd like to see the raw data please.


You mean like from the Obama DoE?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:25 pm to
We had a world class education system that was cheap as hell that produced quality and productive citizens before Jimmy Carter pushed his boondoggle DOE on us.

One of Ronald Reagan's biggest mistakes was that he did not do enough to kill it.
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
Member since Jul 2016
3724 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

We had a world class education system that was cheap as hell that produced quality and productive citizens before Jimmy Carter pushed his boondoggle DOE on us.


It goes back further than Carter to LBJ and his not-so-"Great Society"
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

This is a strange graph. What did they mean by this? Are they saying we need more funding for education to improve?
What is it using for reading and math scores?

A lot of standardized tests are norm-referenced with a set mean and standard deviation, so even if students increase their skills, the renorming will reflect a trend of 0.

For example, intelligence has risen (Flynn Effect), but even though the mean is always been 100, a 100 today reflects a level of intelligence greater than 50 years ago.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:27 pm to
So it costs more to go to school in 2010 than 1970? Groundbreaking material you have there.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:28 pm to
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So it costs more to go to school in 2010 than 1970? Groundbreaking material you have there.
It is inflation adjusted though so it is a pretty significant trend.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 12:29 pm
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:30 pm to
Oopsie daisy for that other guy
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

A lot of standardized tests are norm-referenced with a set mean and standard deviation, so even if students increase their skills, the renorming will reflect a trend of 0.



From their site, it looks like SAT scores about being linked.

The SAT is not norm referenced to my knowledge.
Posted by LSU2a
SWLA to Dallas
Member since Aug 2012
2849 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:35 pm to
The biggest problem with our education system is that fact that it hasn't changed in 150 years and applies a single, standardized method of learning upon individuals who best learn in a variety of ways.
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3096 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:36 pm to
Parents are 100% of the problem.

If you are raised in a home environment where there is no parental involvement and the parent could care less, you will do worst in school than the student who has parents who care and are involved with their students education.

As a teacher, I see this all of the time. The parent dosnt have to be rich to have a good student. It is all about parental involvement and how much the parent is involved with their students education and other school activities.
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