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re: Hydroxychloriquine Effective Against China Virus

Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16148 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:05 pm to
Biden will soon praise hcq...then the media and universities will all praise Biden for his sage like wisdom. ....and 10s of millions of liberal sheep will fall for it.


Don't underestimate universities and the media. They convinced millions of idiots that a party switch happened and that the Democrat party is no longer responsible for their horrible history.
Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:33 pm to
quote:

I'm pretty sure there were several Democrat governors who actually OUTLAWED the use of this relatively safe drug for the treatment of Coronavirus. Literally thousands have died because of this. (I personally buried a close friend of mines father on Tuesday.)

I long for the day when all of these clowns in power are strung up and hung in the streets.


Those politicians should be arrested for homicide. Many people died because the Drs would not give them HCQ early enough or not at all.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5528 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:00 am to
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It's not just an article from the NIH, its a large, comprehensive randomized controlled trial they did


color me skeptical of the NIH...as I said before. That is like listening to WHO... for those of us that question science for a living...let us do our jobs and perhaps spend more time being better at yours.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7554 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:20 am to
Both articles represent the problems inherent with how lay people interpret the data presented. And how our media pushes an agenda based on their own agenda vs. what is really best for mankind.

One determines Hydroxychloroquine does not help patients already hospitalized. The other states it doesn’t help prevent the disease. Both are correct.

However, it is fantastic, when taken at the first sign of symptoms, at preventing the diseases from progressing.

Your premise that it doesn’t work is false. Like almost all medications, it has certain parameters in which it is effective.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1923 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:24 am to
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o make matters worse, I'm pretty sure there were several Democrat governors who actually OUTLAWED the use of this relatively safe drug for the treatment of Coronavirus.



They should be held accountable for crimes against humanity.

and for any libtard reading this, dont come at me with the bullshite excuse of "well they didnt want to cause a shortage for the people who actually need HCQ in their daily lives"

HCQ is plentiful and not hard to manufacture.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 11:28 am
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19343 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:33 am to
Why are dimwitted politicians making medical decisions?
Posted by 98eagle
Member since Sep 2020
1949 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:36 am to
This part of the article about reinfecting yourself when you inhale was new news to me....

"Reduction of Self-Reinoculation
It is well-recognized that COVID-19 exists outside the human body in a bioaerosol of airborne particles and droplets. Because exhaled air in an infected person is considered to be “loaded” with inoculum, each exhalation and inhalation is effectively reinoculation.15 In patients who are hospitalized, negative pressure is applied to the room air largely to reduce spread outside of the room. We propose that fresh air could reduce reinoculation and potentially reduce the severity of illness and possibly reduce household spread during quarantine. This calls for open windows, fans for aeration, or spending long periods of time outdoors away from others with no face covering to disperse and not reinhale the viral bioaerosol."
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1923 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

It is well-recognized that COVID-19 exists outside the human body in a bioaerosol of airborne particles and droplets. Because exhaled air in an infected person is considered to be “loaded” with inoculum, each exhalation and inhalation is effectively reinoculation.



keep wearing those mask huh.

some democrats even doubled down....an im not talking figuratively. No, these idiots are walking around with TWO mask on

imagine being that dumb
Posted by Coleridge
Houston
Member since Dec 2020
315 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:09 pm to
Someone should have told Trump about HCQ when he caught the virus and took everything but the miracle medicine.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 12:10 pm
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1923 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:16 pm to
2005 study from when there was a breakout of SARS-CoV

Cloroquine as a potent Sars-CoV inhibitor

quote:

Results
We report, however, that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage. In addition to the well-known functions of chloroquine such as elevations of endosomal pH, the drug appears to interfere with terminal glycosylation of the cellular receptor, angiotensin-converting enzyme 2. This may negatively influence the virus-receptor binding and abrogate the infection, with further ramifications by the elevation of vesicular pH, resulting in the inhibition of infection and spread of SARS CoV at clinically admissible concentrations.

Conclusion
Chloroquine is effective in preventing the spread of SARS CoV in cell culture. Favorable inhibition of virus spread was observed when the cells were either treated with chloroquine prior to or after SARS CoV infection. In addition, the indirect immunofluorescence assay described herein represents a simple and rapid method for screening SARS-CoV antiviral compounds.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 12:17 pm
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
11675 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:21 pm to
It works friends took it 1 week sick keep believing these fuctards
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1923 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:23 pm to
couple notes:

When administered correctly HCQ can help slow the replication of the virus. Taking HCQ alone would help, but was shown to be more beneficial when taken with zinc.

HCQ works as an ionophore to help zinc enter the cell wall more easily.

Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
11675 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:25 pm to
frick you downvoter why dont you tell us who you are chickenshit
Posted by BornCritic
Member since Nov 2020
696 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

keep wearing those mask huh.


I could be wrong, but I think the powers that be have too much invested in the mask orders at this point to ever admit that the masks could be causing people to get sicker than they would without the masks.

I'm just hopeful they'll quietly remove the restrictions.

But they'll never admit they were wrong.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29614 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:28 pm to
quote:


Your premise that it doesn’t work is false. Like almost all medications, it has certain parameters in which it is effective.


Sorry, RunningWithScissors already invoked thine holy name, Science, therefore so it is written, so it is done. Amen.
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
1647 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:28 pm to
Here's the main takeaway, in case y'all don't feel like skimming through it:

quote:

The currently completed retrospective studies and randomized trials have generally shown these findings: 1) when started late in the hospital course and for short durations of time, antimalarials appear to be ineffective, 2) when started earlier in the hospital course, for progressively longer durations and in outpatients, antimalarials may reduce the progression of disease, prevent hospitalization, and are associated with reduced mortality... ...HCQ was approved by the US Food and Drug Administration in 1955, has been used by hundreds of millions of people worldwide since then, is sold over the counter in many countries, and has a well-characterized safety profile that should not raise undue alarm.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1923 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:28 pm to
it was me my brain hurt trying to read that run on sentence do you know what i mean maybe a little punctuation would help people better understand you
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17442 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:41 pm to
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Ok I read them. To be honest, I put no credence on an article from NIH.

As for penn article it is about prevention not treatment.

Any others


Maybe RunningwithSiccors should leave the science to scientists
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1923 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

I could be wrong, but I think the powers that be have too much invested in the mask orders at this point to ever admit that the masks could be causing people to get sicker than they would without the masks


You're definetly not wrong baw.

If they admit they are wrong they lose trust and never win another election in their life. Not to mention they could be held liable for crimes against humanity if proven they know the mask don't work
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 4:09 pm
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21355 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 4:15 pm to
Ya'll did read that one of the manufacturing plants making HCQ blew up last week in Taiwan? China doesn't want a cure out there.
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