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re: Hundreds of Navy SEALS told they won't be deployed if they refuse COVID vaccine

Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:22 pm to
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:22 pm to
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Do y'all not understand this administration and Pentagon are unconcerned about readiness? They are preparing to roll over to the Chinese


I’m fully aware. Did you not see my post where I said they are using this to purge non left ideology?
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:26 pm to
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Most pilots couldn’t careless about rank. They just want to fly and their health, ie medicals, are the number 1 show stopper for their career. I don’t think a lot of them are on board with it.



Pilots when they don’t fly are admin working with very liberal admin enlisted. The maintainers are the conservatives and do all the real work in a squadron. Most are close with pilots but in the Marines the S shop enlisted fricks get awards, get off early, hang with the pilots all day. Unless an officer is in charge of a maintenance shop, they really don’t give a frick.

I was a crew chief on Hueys and mechanic in the Marines, for background.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 7:34 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:26 pm to
I don't envy recruiters going forward. Unless a draft or major stop loss is put in place, the services may never make mission again.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:27 pm to
Lol I’m glad I did recruiting when I did. And I had no life then. I’d definitely get relieved and probably get out. That is such a different life.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:30 pm to
Brigades in USAREC are graded based on gross numbers. Battalion and below on net.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 7:30 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:31 pm to
Woke generals doing work
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:32 pm to
Oh I know. Does USAREC still do 5pm close? They started that when I was on the streets. I was so damn jelly. I had my own office (1 man PCS hour away from RSS) and the Army was the only other branch a 1-1 station.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 7:33 pm
Posted by Loserman
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:34 pm to
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I got small pox and full anthrax series. They were a bit more tested and I was young and had no choice deploying, so I went along with it. I don’t know how those really affect me. Too late now, but nothing like this rushed vax. They didn’t even test it in animal trials.


Unfortunately, I got stuck a zillion times when I was in too. No telling what they tested on us way back before the internet.

The part I was referring to about being happy to take the discharge, wasn't so much about me being anti-this-vacinne as they said they would discharge you if you refused,

Back in my day refusing any order wasn't an option
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:35 pm to
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Does USAREC still do 5pm close? 


Started as I was leaving command in 2009.
Posted by dbbuilder79
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:35 pm to
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the Woke Brigade will easily backfill them.


They'll be easy targets in pink camo, tho
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:36 pm to
Oh yeah. First day or so walk through medical each arm getting who knows you’d be a fool to think the military isn’t a government experiment.
Posted by hottub
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:36 pm to
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Pilots when they don’t fly are admin working with very liberal admin enlisted.



Very true and as a former naval aviator, I will tell you we give zero fricks what the enlisted admin’s opinions are…… God bless you as a maintainer. Worth your weight in gold.


ETA: A good maintainer can get you out of a bad situation, or keep you in a great one. We bought endless cases of booze for a hard break in sig, rota, etc.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 7:39 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:37 pm to
I was a great recruiter. My boss sucked and command was hours away and didn’t care. 9pm conf call to report data
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:37 pm to
Just telling my experience sir
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:39 pm to
Do soldiers take allegiance to the govt or the country?
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:39 pm to
They do as they are told. Or else. The UCMJ is a mother you don’t want to play with.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 7:40 pm
Posted by hottub
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:41 pm to
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Do soldiers take allegiance to the govt or the country?


Constitution
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:42 pm to
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rota


Stopped there on the way back from Iraq doing loadex on a c5 with 3 hueys and 3 cobras.

We ended up at a brothel in the country, got drunk, paid for sex, threw up in a cab, and lost my orders in a 17 hour stop. I was 19
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:43 pm to
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9pm conf call to report data


That's bullshite. My First Sergeant held our calls at 4pm and expected the offices to be empty once the call was done unless there was active processing going or appointments scheduled prior to the call. We had to force ourselves to leave the company HQ NLT 8 so that our station commanders would leave.

When my First Sergeant wouldn't leave early on his wedding anniversary I called his wife and snitched on him. She and I got along very well after that.

I saved the marriage of one of my recruiters by encouraging him to seek counseling for his PTSD. His wife asked me to talk to him because she felt comfortable talking to me because I speak German.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 7:49 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:46 pm to
Ehh it’s the Marine Corps. We take stupid to the max. I was the first recruiter of 3 to not get relieved and have a very successful 36 months. The day i checked out, not receiving an end of tour award, my sergeant major tried chewing my arse

Going back to the fleet I was deflated, had tons of medical issues that I put off for years and got out 2 years later.

Fk toxic leadership.
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