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re: How will banks clean up the $108 Billion hole in their balance sheets?

Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:27 pm to
Posted by BlueFalcon
Aberdeen Scotland
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:27 pm to
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How will WE clean up the bank's $108 Billion hole in their balance sheets?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133532 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 10:18 pm to
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currently paying The Fed’s exorbitant rates
What rates would that be?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51968 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 5:09 am to
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You look at all of the ills of this country and it all is because of the federal government.

Most people in the world would agree that we have the best country in the world.

Also, here are ills that are not the federal government’s fault.

- Vote harvesting
- Inner city vagrants crapping all ove San Francisco and other cities
- High divorce rates
- Georgia winning two national titles in a row

You can always make a sophist argument that the Feds are responsible, e.g. Inner city vagrants were caused by the feds closing down mental institutions in the 80’s. But that just removed the feds cure. That wasn’t why the problem existed.
This post was edited on 9/9/23 at 5:22 am
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 5:49 am to
Based on history, another bank should fail before end of September.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51968 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 5:53 am to
I read much of this thread and did not see anyone comment on the paltry nature of the $108 billion. The OP reminds me of Austin Powers ransoming the world for one million dollars.

That is a tiny amount of money. It amounts to less than half of Elon Musk’s wealth. I bet Hunter Biden has stolen that much.
Posted by Dirtyboro
Member since Jul 2014
717 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 6:06 am to
Maybe banks shouldn’t have funded counterfeit shorting en masse and then act surprised when their tab is due
Posted by ELT
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 6:28 am to
Are you implying our economy is stronger than it has been in many years?
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 8:57 am to
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What rates would that be?


Certainly not a rate you are familiar with.


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I read much of this thread and did not see anyone comment on the paltry nature of the $108 billion. The OP reminds me of Austin Powers ransoming the world for one million dollars.

Can you even imagine what has been leveraged with $108 billion?
This post was edited on 9/9/23 at 9:18 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 9:11 am to
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What rates would that be?



Certainly not a rate you are familiar with.
I'm familiar with all the Fed's rates. The Fed's rates are updated daily on the Fed's website.

I'm trying to determine if you know what the rates are that you're calling "exorbitant."

If you don't answer my question, then I'll know you're clueless about what you've posted just as I said earlier in this thread.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133532 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 9:16 am to
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Are you implying our economy is stronger than it has been in many years?
Do you believe the U.S. economy today is weaker or stronger than it was in 2008/2009 (during the financial crisis) or in 2020/2021 when the economy shut down due to COVID?

I believe the economy is doing much better today than at those time periods. If you disagree, let's hear your reasoning.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
11242 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 9:23 am to
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How will banks clean up the $108 Billion hole in their balance sheets?

Fly the Ukrainian flag at each branch and pass out mini Ukrainian flags and decals to their customers.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133532 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 9:31 am to
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Can you even imagine what has been leveraged with $108 billion?
If, as you claim, the $108 billion represents a "hole" in the banking systems balance sheet, meaning it's missing from the banks' balance sheet, how can it be used to "leverage" anything?

See what I mean about you're not knowing what you're talking about? You're just parroting financial terminology that you've heard and you have no idea what the terms mean.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62530 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 9:32 am to
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Certainly not a rate you are familiar with.
Pretty sure he is.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17501 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 9:39 am to
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Pretty sure he is.


Yep, which is why he is trying to pretend there is no problem. I bet he has not ever been able to borrow below prime however.

This post was edited on 9/9/23 at 10:31 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133532 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 10:28 am to
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which is why he is trying to pretend their* is no problem.
*there, not "their"

What problem are you pretending to see? Be specific. Don't say "there's a whole in banks' balance sheets." I've already determined you don't know what that means.

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I bet he has not ever been able to borrow below prime however.
I don't borrow, except for using credit cards. And my interest rate on those is 0% because I pay them off every month. In fact, my credit cards pay me cash back every month.

So, you're wrong again, SFB...
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62530 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 10:34 am to
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Yep, which is why he is trying to pretend their is no problem.
You seem to be the one dodging. Just be aware… LSURussian has been a good source of knowledge on this board about the fed and monetary policy longer than you’ve been a member.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17501 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 10:38 am to
I believe the Fed should be disbanded. Anyone who supports the Fed can not be a "good source of knowledge."
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133532 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 10:52 am to
You’re the typical “I don’t understand something so I’m scared of it.” Just like a child.

You still can’t describe what the $108 billion represents nor can you explain what “exorbitant interest rate” the “Fed charges banks” is.

Ignorance is not bliss. It’s embarrassing when it’s willful.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17668 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 11:03 am to
The link in the OP is all over the place. Whoever wrote that piece is chasing squirrels.

We had 15+ years of insanely cheap money. The value of any long term debt issued during that time is naturally going to drop. This has nothing to do with Biden and everything to do with a federal government that has funded deficit spending with debt from its central bank.

Deposits are naturally going to chase yield. In this case, MMAs are finally starting to pay decent rates. This shouldn’t be a surprise. The reason you’re seeing 5% 12 month CDs is because banks are trying to keep deposits from running off.

A bigger concern for banking is upcoming CRE (Commercial Real Estate) and commercial loan maturities. These loans are often underwritten by regional and community banks based on 20+ year amortizations with 5+\- year maturities. Basically “balloons.”

So let’s say a $2 million CRE loan was made at 5% fixed for five years based on a 20 year repayment. When that loan comes due, it could be repriced at 8%, increasing the loan payment.

Not only do the rate increases raise the loan payments, but the value of the CRE typically follows rates as well. Like bonds, when rates rise, cap rates typically follow suit, and when cap rates rise, all other factors being equal, CRE values can drop.

So you can have a higher loan payment and require a pay down due to debt service coverage requirements and/or Loan-to-Value requirements.

I’m not calling for the CRE doom that the WSJ wrote about this week, but there will be a correction. We’ll just have to see what it looks like.

That’s on most banks’ radars.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17501 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 11:03 am to
The headline of the link is what got my attention. It probably has something to do with it. But, like a small child, I am just hrowing darts at the bulls eye, kicking a$$, and taking names.



I suggest your read The Creature From Jeckyl Island. You obviously are clueless.
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