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Posted on 11/6/14 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112438 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 12:06 pm to
The answer to the OP is simple. This was a 'nationalized election.' IE, in most mid terms the candidates for House and Senate argue about locally important issues. This year the GOP focused on one unified national issue:

DO YOU HATE OBAMA? IF 'YES', VOTE FOR US.

It worked. Therefore, the question is:
Why do people hate Obama now, but not in 2012? Beats all hell outta me. I hated him before he ran for his first term. He's a communist. It was an easy call.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35610 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 12:13 pm to
I don't think the number of people who hate Obama changed very much. The coalition Obama built was wide over a bunch of different groups but not very deep in conviction.

The people with conviction showed up to give Obama the middle finger.
Posted by ripper88
louisiana
Member since Oct 2007
272 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 12:14 pm to
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Posted by cwill quote: I didn't say that those things didn't individually exist in some degree only that they aren't as determinative as many would have you believe.


Don't underestimate the power the media still has. The riffraff needed for Obama to get elected but who didn't show up are not exactly informed.If the only info one gets is snipets of left-leaning media, it can definitely have an effect.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112438 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

I don't think the number of people who hate Obama changed very much. The coalition Obama built was wide over a bunch of different groups but not very deep in conviction. The people with conviction showed up to give Obama the middle finger.


I see your point and I'd describe it this way... the people who re-elected Obama 2 years ago did so without as much passion as the people who voted against him on Tuesday. I think that means a lot more people actually hate Obama today than two years ago.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35610 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 12:31 pm to
A lot of the Obama vote was also people turned off by the "homophobic/racist/backwards" Republicans. There weren't any "legitimate rapes" to get those voters out.

Well executed safe campaigns got it done.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16429 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 12:33 pm to
Only 30% chose to voice their opinion. Now it's easy to guess who those were....
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112438 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

There weren't any "legitimate rapes" to get those voters out.


I think less than 1/1000000th of the Obama voters know about your reference.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:24 pm to
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I would like some proof of this statement you made of the OWS crowd. TIA


Much of the anger was directed at the gov bailout of the banks...it was very anti-gov. YWIA.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
11858 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:28 pm to
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2. Voter fraud


You think voter fraud only goes one way?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:28 pm to
According to this board, pretty much, yeah.

ETA: Are you suggesting that the GOP stole the mid-terms through fraudulent voting???
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 1:30 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64314 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:30 pm to
99.99 of us still are. I'm not so sure the same thing can't happen all over again. And why not? Where is the risk? And neither side of the isle seems to concerned about it. Perhaps a wall st wizz can set me straight?

I just don't remember seeing libertarians among that crown there. Could be I just don't remember.

Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7771 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:59 pm to
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members are largely liberal and academia is liberal would be asinine.


They are both populations of educated people.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57896 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 2:01 pm to
Lots of low info voters don't turn up for midterm elections.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

Minorities, youth, and single women rarely show up for mid-terms, allowing republicans to generally have the advantage.


In 2006 mid-term, Dems picked up 5 Senate seats and 34 House seats.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 4:36 pm to
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Honestly, Americans are pissed off at all politicians right now.

BHO is seen as the head of the country, so his party caught the most blow back for it.

If there were a viable third party, we may have been throwing D's AND R's out of office.


I would fall in this category. I didn't vote and don't give a shite about the results. Why? Because I don't immerse myself in domestic politics any longer. I have no faith that either party cares more about the country than what is good for their party. So, I rarely watch network news and either block or hang up on all political calls during election periods. Basically, I don't give a frick who runs the country, because it seems to never really alter my life in a significant manner.

Politicians are here for our entertainment - they are clowns and for those who campaign and donate to their campaign, you are funding and supporting a bunch of stooges.

If I had my way, I'd outsource the entire federal govt to Google and fire as many politicians & govt workers as possible.

Has a new era dawned for American? Hell no. You nor I will see very few significant changes. Why, because we elect people who play the game. They, by nature are insincere, ego-driven, power-hungry, mediocre people (see our last 2 presidents). They are selling shite that I refuse to buy.

Bottom line - I don't need to rely on a politician to live well or be happy.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42561 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 5:03 pm to
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But if they liberal media are controlling the sheople and most of them have their checking accounts filled with gov handouts....your checkbook argument doesn't hold water.

troll

stupid troll

inane question by a stupid troll

rinse repeat
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 7:45 pm to
You're an angry old man. End of story.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 8:00 pm
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18062 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

cwill


Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22498 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

Abraham Lincoln

Obama's chickens finally came home to roost.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 7:52 pm
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 8:00 pm to
I don't get it. Why would I be crying?
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