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re: How were the Republicans able to reclaim the Senate considering....
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:51 am to idlewatcher
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:51 am to idlewatcher
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Yes, you guys
Who are you calling you guys? I'm not a Dem or you a Rep?
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Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:53 am to Jake88
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Your number one is real and if you can't admit to it you're dishonest.
I didn't say it wasn't real. I think the effect is just vastly overstated.
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Your number two happens but I suspect not in a large enough number to screw things up.
Obviously. It's de minimis and inconsequential.
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As for three, this was a midterm, the takers and stupid usually stay home. As someone posted last week, the midterm voter is generally more educated, wealthier and more informed than the presidential election voter.
So what will the story line be when Rand Paul wins the presidency?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:57 am to cwill
Dude. Really? I think the election has taken a toll on you.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 11:01 am to cwill
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How do you explain the rising tide of libertarianism among young people???
lol, explaining a figment of your imagination?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 11:01 am to BBONDS25
I just think the various story lines are funny, especially the old liberal media-fraud-takers meme...I had no stake in the 2 major parties swapping control...nothing significant will change other than Keystone being approved.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 11:03 am to Jagd Tiger
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lol, explaining a figment of your imagination?
Fagd Tiger...give me some color...you don't think there is a trend towards libertarianism? Why?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 11:05 am to cwill
ctard.. why don't you show some evidence of this "trend" you believe you have seen.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 11:05 am
Posted on 11/6/14 at 11:06 am to cwill
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How do you explain the rising tide of libertarianism among young people???
It's yet to be seen how big or how lasting it'll be. I think it is encouraging, but it's also been very trendy (Ron Paul) and I doubt it is as big as it sounds. Ron Paul supporters and the like are known to an extremely "loud" minority.
I would like for libertarianism to be the biggest mover among young people, but I think it is still heavily trumped by more prominent movements like the leftover from Occupy and the insanely PC "Yes means Yes" crowd.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 11:09 am to cwill
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1. Liberal control of the media and academics
2. Voter fraud
3. Our country dominated mostly by takers and stupid people
Plus many republicans moving to Libertarian.
It goes to show how stupid liberal policies are and how partisan and unamerican they have been. Harry Reid are Nancy Pelosi have been blinded by power.
Just think how big of a defeat it would have been had the above not been true? There may not be a democrat left in Washington because of Obama, Reid and Pelosi, et al.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 11:10 am to cwill
Sadly, Paul will not win if he gets the nomination. Especially not once people get a clear understanding of what libertarian ideas actually encompass or at least what the media tells them it means.
Paul wants to destroy the federal government, and allow for a free for all where only the wealthy can survive will be the theme.
Paul wants to destroy the federal government, and allow for a free for all where only the wealthy can survive will be the theme.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 11:13 am to Jagd Tiger
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Meanwhile, the age group most responsible for delivering Obama his two terms may well become a political wild card over time, in large part because of its libertarian leanings. Raised on the ad hoc communalism of the Internet, disenchanted by the Iraq War, reflexively tolerant of other lifestyles, appalled by government intrusion into their private affairs and increasingly convinced that the Obama economy is rigged against them, the millennials can no longer be regarded as faithful Democrats — and a recent poll confirmed that fully half of voters between ages 18 and 29 are unwedded to either party. Obama has profoundly disappointed many of these voters by shying away from marijuana decriminalization, by leading from behind on same-sex marriage, by trumping the Bush administration on illegal-immigrant deportations and by expanding Bush’s N.S.A. surveillance program. As one 30-year-old libertarian senior staff member on the Hill told me: “I think we expected this sort of thing from Bush. But Obama seemed to be hip and in touch with my generation, and then he goes and reads our emails.”
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There are any number of articles/polls on the subject. What do you have indicating the opposite Fagd?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 11:14 am to Pettifogger
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Occupy
A complicated group...I don't think you can label it as one or the other...it had some libertarian flecks in it.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 11:15 am to Jake88
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Sadly, Paul will not win if he gets the nomination. Especially not once people get a clear understanding of what libertarian ideas actually encompass or at least what the media tells them it means.
Paul wants to destroy the federal government, and allow for a free for all where only the wealthy can survive will be the theme.
So we're back to media control...in your view a Republican will never win the presidency again?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 11:18 am to cwill
quote:Only if you look at your list as absolutes. The premise is a little more than a reductio ad absurdum....
It defies logic.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 11:19 am to Jake88
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Sadly, Paul will not win if he gets the nomination. Especially not once people get a clear understanding of what libertarian ideas actually encompass or at least what the media tells them it means.
not just the media,, it doesn't help when you have an azzhat like Limbaugh, a guy who brags about his cigar smoking, obviously knocks a few back daily and is almost deaf from his vicodin addiction, calling Libertarians "kooks" for not wanting to throw pot smokers in jail. Social conserves are nearly as bad for us as the MSM.
But yea, the MSM is looking for a new bogeyman, and Paul will clearly "do for now".
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 11:25 am
Posted on 11/6/14 at 11:30 am to Taxing Authority
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Only if you look at your list as absolutes. The premise is a little more than a reductio ad absurdum....
I didn't say that those things didn't individually exist in some degree only that they aren't as determinative as many would have you believe.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 11:36 am to cwill
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I didn't say that those things didn't individually exist in some degree only that they aren't as determinative as many would have you believe.
Sure.Posted on 11/6/14 at 11:38 am to cwill
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1. Liberal control of the media and academics 2. Voter fraud 3. Our country dominated mostly by takers and stupid people
1. Republicans did a better job of getting their message out.
2. We registered our share of dead people and overcame a lot of the deficit.
3. The takers and stupid people stayed home knowing Obama was looking out for them anyway.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 11:56 am to cwill
1. Alternative media like The Daily Caller, Beirnart etc.
2. The dumb azz kids, and liberals stayed home because they realize the have been voting for an illusion. IRS TARGETING, NSA SNOOPING, BAD ECONOMY, KIDS CAN'T GET JOBS, MO BORDER CONTROL, ISIS, etc.
Elections have consequences byched
Only 60 percent of the electorate show up in big turnouts, so for the dumb azz president to cry about people staying home is a joke, so in the years only 60-65 percent of the people show up that mans that is why that dumb POS was elected?
2. The dumb azz kids, and liberals stayed home because they realize the have been voting for an illusion. IRS TARGETING, NSA SNOOPING, BAD ECONOMY, KIDS CAN'T GET JOBS, MO BORDER CONTROL, ISIS, etc.
Elections have consequences byched
Only 60 percent of the electorate show up in big turnouts, so for the dumb azz president to cry about people staying home is a joke, so in the years only 60-65 percent of the people show up that mans that is why that dumb POS was elected?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 12:06 pm to cwill
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.it had some libertarian flecks in it.
I would like some proof of this statement you made of the OWS crowd. TIA
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