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re: How the St. George vote broke down by voting precinct

Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:10 pm to
I bet that vote percentage changes after the fact. Seriously, if you voted against SG, would you allow your home to be annexed to Baton Rouge? Something tells me no.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134779 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:02 pm to
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I live in Oak Hills and there are a lot of people against it for some reason.
According to the map in the OP a majority in that area voted against being incorporated into St. George. That’s also the case for a rather large area south of Highland Road almost all the way to I-10.

Eta:

This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 11:06 pm
Posted by ladygoodman
under there
Member since Oct 2016
371 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:16 pm to
Truth. I have relatives in Oak Hills who are disgusted that they are "forced" to live in St George. They bought all the fear tactics the opponents were selling. They old.
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3813 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:32 pm to
Fort Worth (and probably many decent sized cities in every state) does the same thing. Fort Worth owns a strip of land on either side of 35 up to texas motor speedway. Even though it’s 20 miles north of Fort Worth, it has a Fort Worth address. American Airlines HQ is also in the city of Fort Worth even though you have to drive through 3 other towns to get there from Fort Worth. It’s purely a tax thing. This isn’t unique to BR.
Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:37 pm to
Is it possible to be unannexed? If so how difficult is that process?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134779 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:49 am to
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Is it possible to be unannexed? If so how difficult is that process?
Yes. It's the reverse of requesting to be annexed.

A majority of property owners must sign a petition to be un-annexed and the petition is presented to the local governing body.

That body then must vote its approval of the petition. If the motion to un-annex is approved, that area then reverts to unincorporated property.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42546 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:53 am to
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Yes. It's the reverse of requesting to be annexed.

A majority of property owners must sign a petition to be un-annexed and the petition is presented to the local governing body.

That body then must vote its approval of the petition. If the motion to un-annex is approved, that area then reverts to unincorporated property.


You explained it better than the paper did this morning.

You thinking of getting out of BR now????

JK ........
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42546 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:56 am to
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Then they talk about gerrymandering.

The street to the servitude’s and that lot are in the City of BR, while they passed up other homes and businesses.


I really don’t understand how that was legal, but since no one protested it passed I guess.


Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:58 am to
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The house on Jones Creek annexed in to BR back in 1976 because he wanted fire protection for his insurance. SGFD was only a small volunteer department back then.


Who was the home owner back in the day? I thought he was some kind of wheel.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115146 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:04 am to
Noticed if you live in the BR area and pull up Google Maps, the boundaries of St.G are displayed on the map.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134779 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:04 am to
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You thinking of getting out of BR now????
Nope.

But some people living in those large contiguous areas on either side of Highland Road from about Bluebonnet almost to I-10 where a majority of voters didn't want to be incorporated are already discussing how they can remain unincorporated and not be included into St. George.

You've been saying all along that a majority of voters should be allowed to determine their own future, right?
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
13071 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:05 am to
Are they able to opt out? I know other areas are able to opt in if they want, so it only makes sense to work both ways.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134779 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:11 am to
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Are they able to opt out?
I would think there could be an opt out provision where a majority of voters or property owners don't want to be incorporated.

But other than the "un-annexation" process I described above, I'm not aware of an "opt out" feature.

It might take a lawsuit to get a judge to rule on them opting out. I don't know.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42546 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:17 am to
Maps like this are somewhat misleading because a large geographical area doesn’t necessarily equate to a large number of voters.

Precinct 3-56 went 223 yes and 308 no or 531 votes total.
Precinct 3-66 went 278 yes and 185 no or 464 total votes and it is much smaller area wise.
Precinct 3-49 (A+B) had a total of 661 votes and it’s relatively small in area

Then look at 3-70(A+B) it went for SG and it had 647 total votes, but yes won by just 21 votes. The colors really don’t indicate if the vote was close or not.



Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42546 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:19 am to
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But some people living in those large contiguous areas on either side of Highland Road from about Bluebonnet almost to I-10 where a majority of voters didn't want to be incorporated are already discussing how they can remain unincorporated and not be included into St. George.

You've been saying all along that a majority of voters should be allowed to determine their own future, right?



I certainly do. That’s their call, not mine. I have absolutely no issue with that.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134779 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:22 am to
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Maps like this are somewhat misleading because a large geographical area doesn’t necessarily equate to a large number of voters.

Misleading how? A majority is a majority, right?

"Close" only matters in horseshoes and hand grenades.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42546 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:24 am to
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I would think there could be an opt out provision where a majority of voters or property owners don't want to be incorporated.

But other than the "un-annexation" process I described above, I'm not aware of an "opt out" feature.

It might take a lawsuit to get a judge to rule on them opting out. I don't know.



They will be in SG (if things go as planned) and then they could petition to get out.

Then there would be an election. Sort of SG in reverse.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42546 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:29 am to
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Misleading how? A majority is a majority, right?

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Misleading how? A majority is a majority, right?

"Close" only matters in horseshoes and hand grenades.



The map doesn’t indicate the number of voters. Just because one precinct is very large on the map it doesn’t mean it had more voters than another precinct 80% smaller.

And in comparison to other maps I saw after the election where they shaded an area to indicate level of support for one candidate over the other candidates, it’s not that informative.

But yes you are right, one vote can make the difference in winning and in losing. Ask Carter and Foil, they know.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57817 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:32 am to
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Misleading how?


Because a majority of the manchac area (3-56) is farm and wetlands.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 9:32 am
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
13071 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:32 am to
My area was a lot closer than I had hoped, but it wasn't too bad percentage wise after looking closer. I talked a few neighbors into the whole st george idea after a few discussions. Not sure if they actually voted, though.
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