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re: How Many Shots by Counter Snipers?

Posted on 7/24/24 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 2:51 pm to
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2 separate sniper teams engaged, 1 missed


Link? I know kill shot came from south barn guy on top from behind Trump. Where is this other supposed sniper team shot miss?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 2:54 pm to
I have seen it reported variously that there was a miss by "local sniper."
Posted by Squirrelmeister
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 2:55 pm to
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So, TEN shots, total?

Dude we’ve known for over a week it was exactly 10 total shots. It’s only been a matter of using evidence to decide which parties took those 10 shots.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 2:56 pm to
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Dude we’ve known for over a week it was exactly 10 total shots. It’s only been a matter of using evidence to decide which parties took those 10 shots.


Most reports I have seen said 9.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 2:57 pm to
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I have seen it reported variously that there was a miss by "local sniper."


Bongino fellow I think relayed something he was told. I just don’t know if it’s part of a certainty of things we know. Could be intentional false info relayed to hide the intent of the other sniper shot. That’s all.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 2:59 pm to
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Link? I know kill shot came from south barn guy on top from behind Trump. Where is this other supposed sniper team shot miss?


The Fox News report video at beginning of this post just says last two shots were from counter snipers. No location disclosed.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:00 pm to
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The Fox News report video at beginning of this post just says last two shots were from counter snipers.


one that happened to "end" the rapid fire.

and another 10 seconds later that everyone claims was the end of the subject on the roof.


Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:13 pm to
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quote:
Bongino's not really pounding much of the deets of who what where


He is actually, you just want to believe your UFO bullshite.

No shooter on tower
2 separate sniper teams engaged, 1 missed 1 hit
Ladder wasn't on site that he purchased
He even knew Cheatle was communicating using signal before it came out in hearing as well as other encrypted apps
Didn't have adequate personnel for the threat
How he accessed the roof and where the gun was hidden


Agree, with the exception of the gun hide. He may have said something on that, I haven't heard it.

Everything we know to date lines up with someone firing eight rounds from one gun, or two guns that are identical and equidistant from Trump's mic. Audio suggests there was a ninth shot from a different gun at the end of the wild volley, and a tenth shot from that same gun or a different (not Crooks) gun seconds later. Audio from the stage mic:

LINK /

What isn't clear is where the last two shots came from, presumably a sniper miss and a sniper hit. The known sniper team locations - two behind Trump, one in the barn by the lake - were located such that regardless a miss or a hit, the bullet trajectory would leave evidence on the building beyond Crooks position. Even with a 308 passing through Crooks head, it still has enough energy to leave a mark on the side of a metal building. Did it?

This post was edited on 7/24/24 at 3:16 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:17 pm to
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If a local had shot… y’all aren’t processing the correct target.

I have no idea what you are talking about, but the locals have said that they engaged the shooter.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:18 pm to
You so desperately want there to be a second shooter that no one saw and somehow thousands of people and cameras missed.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:21 pm to
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No shooter on tower


key word shooter. i'm not arguing what tower is or isn't any longer at this time.

quote:

2 separate sniper teams engaged, 1 missed 1 hit


we're getting conflicting info on the "miss" and who our "sniper " local etc. So all i'm saying is nothing is really known about this statement yet. False info gets put out days late on purpose all the time.

quote:

Ladder wasn't on site that he purchased

not much relevance FOR ME. i'm not saying the detail doesn't matter.

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He even knew Cheatle was communicating using signal before it came out in hearing as well as other encrypted apps


there was lots of talk about encrypted accounts pretty immediately after. Again, good detail but doesn't give me the meat and potatoes about the shooting and shooters.

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How he accessed the roof and where the gun was hidden



We don't even know who he is.


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You want to believe the crap youre "researching" but the focus should be on why wasn't the building inside of the perimeter due to clean line of site and distance to the stage and what was the breakdown.

The mistake was in the planning for the event. Why was the mistake in the planning of the event?


I think the obvious of the pulled strings set up is pretty damn obvious. Yes, you're right, i dove into details and videos of the day and trying to dissect every single thing i could find and make sense of things. We all can worry about both.

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you just want to believe your UFO bullshite.


Are you formally saying that footage of drones flying around during that rally are fake and not real and have no business being a part of this investigation?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:24 pm to
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we're getting conflicting info on the "miss" and who our "sniper " local etc. So all i'm saying is nothing is really known about this statement yet. False info gets put out days late on purpose all the time.


...AND not one relevant question from the Wray congressional hearing to clarify this issue.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:26 pm to
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Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:30 pm to
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You so desperately want there to be a second shooter that no one saw and somehow thousands of people and cameras missed.


i get i'm appearing to come off like a looney tune.

its no coincidence the information and videos that have been put out there for specific reasons. I've combed over every video thats been shown on the internet. The edits, the cuts, the timing of what's been shown... It all smells like shite. I've caught on to some of the tiniest clues in a couple videos that I think are huge and add this whole entire operation up. What's not out there is a huge clue for me right now. yeah, i sound like a fricking crazy person. Maybe i'm caught up in false flags or whatever you want to say... some of my clues are things nobody has picked up on. And sorry, the entire investigation and entire streaming of information to us morons is very deliberate, slow, and cryptic.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:34 pm to
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I know kill shot came from south barn guy on top from behind Trump.


Well that certainly isn't 400 yards like everyone is saying the kill shot came from...
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:37 pm to
Bongino always SAYS he doesn't state anything at all until he KNOWS. He doesn't like to speculate.
So far, I trust him.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:38 pm to
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Well that certainly isn't 400 yards like everyone is saying the kill shot came from...


I think 'everyone is saying' 400 yards because by Monday Eric Prince had made a comment that the kill shot was from 488 yards, and because he is well respected, and because that was such a specific number and because he is tied into the security community, everyone assumed it was so.

I assumed so, but now believe differently.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:41 pm to
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Well that certainly isn't 400 yards like everyone is saying the kill shot came from...


488 yard shot is the famous info drop.

The only 488 yard shot that is possible at this moment in life is the sniper in the ag barn with that famous barrel picture across the way to the men standing on building roof (that sniper didn't shoot the subject on roof, no way no how)... from that sniper location to tower is 488. That's the only possible 488 yard shot that exists in the wonderment of what we don't know.

I was also one of the first in internet land to connect the dots of what that location meant. discovering the location and distance.. the only possible location that could mean anything. Which further led me down the rabbit hole of what the shite was going on with the water tower.
This post was edited on 7/24/24 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Breaux
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:49 pm to
Yes, formally. The UFO you posted flying across the sky at a rapid speed is fake.

Drones seen flying before or during should be investigated.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:53 pm to
I'm remembering something. I used to state this in the very days after the assassination when the 488 yard info dropped.


There is only 1 other POSSIBILITY of the 488 yard shot that is the KILL SHOT of the SUBJECT on the roof at the spot that body was found.

It would require the subject to have turn his head to the right side of his body which is plausible to get the correct angle of left eyeball to back of his head.

The shot would have had to come from a sniper on the mazda dealership where there appears to be a flat ledge in front of the i think flat remaining roof. To date, i have not found any info or evidence that shows me that a sniper was at that location when trump took stage. That does not mean whatsoever a sniper was NOT there. This is a strong possibly that i haven't talked about enough. I just haven't found any crumbs of a sniper being there.

This shot is absolutely a one in a million shot. But not sure how him turning and the whole lined up on top of a scope theory works here if he was turning that much in his prone position.

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