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re: How many of you are prepared if there were a power grid attack on the U.S.

Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:13 pm to
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16233 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:13 pm to
I’ve got land, a primitive camp out in the woods, and plenty of guns & ammo. But I seriously hope it never comes to that. It would be a nonstop struggle to survive, especially for a population that has become as soft as we have.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34981 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

I've enough food and water stored for 5 years. We've a couple shacks hidden away in the Appalachian mountains, with more food and water stored, along with plenty of guns for hunting food.


Sounds like you'd be in the 10% survival group, Pl. I assume those hunting guns don't make much noise...and those cabins aren't heated with fire/smoke. Good luck buddy.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7586 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:20 pm to
There is an 11% chance per decade that the event described will happen naturally. Per lloyds of London "it is inevitable".
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:24 pm to
Some people will have backup generators. Once the fuel is used, they might not be able to get additional fuel because gas stations require electricity to pump gas.
People without generators will have refrigerators that will not keep anything cool after 48 hours. That food will have to be eaten and frozen food will have to be cooked. Can cut down trees to build a fire to cook. Will need to hunt/fish.
Will need sleeping bags/blankets for the winter, plus wood to build a fire.
Will need to boil water or have a filtration device, but I'd still boil it if you can.
It will be every man for himself, and after 3 days forget the cops. Getting full will be a problem.
If a person has a generator, the need to make sure their battery is not connected. An electromagnetic pulse will fry ALL electronic devices with power flowing or connected to a battery. This means no batteries in flashlights, etc. After using your generator remember to disconnect the battery terminals. also, use a battery tester to test the battery monthly.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

One Second After" if you want to imagine just what a prolonged Grid outage would look like...and if you can afford little sleep for the next couple of weeks.


Finished the series a few months ago and I’m still literally shaking.
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

Thankfully, Texas has its own grid.
(to avoid dealing with FedGov)
So unless some rabble-rousers were specifically targeting TX, we good.


I didn't know this

Is this true?
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:30 pm to
I can support myself and my family off the land for as long as need be. Got plenty of guns and ammo. I can make my own bows and arrows. Pretty good trapper too. I’ll be fine. Just head into the national forest over here and disappear. Hardest part would be getting my wife used to the outdoors.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37681 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:33 pm to
I'm so prepared ... grew up poor being prepared. Made money, it stuck with me, took it to another level.

Have owned one of the most popular survival forums on the web ... sold it. Used the money to prep even more.

Still own a few gun forums, various makers, with survival sub forums.

Own lots of acres down a long private dirt road. A farm with lots of chicken houses. Generators and 1000s of gallons of propane to run the houses if the grid goes down ... but I would open the doors, can chickens until we got tired of doing it ... use the rest for neighbors and to feed the vicious dogs.

I own a small arsenal and ammo to go with it.

Solar panels would keep the freezers running for awhile.

A few years worth of buckets of rice and beans and pasta and jerkey and canned veggies.

Plenty of seeds for gardens.

A big family who is on the same page.

A ton of first aid stuff .... been thinking actually of writing a book about my 5Fs.

Food (short term, long term, fresh, frozen and freeze dried)
Fresh Water (possibly most important - be redundant)
Fire (cooking, heat, light, cleaning and sterilization)
First Aid (Including farmaceuticals ... this is important, ask me.)
Firearms (goes without saying but KISS)

I'm hardened from EMPs with backup panels and two old computer free pickups on the farm. A hardened diesel backup gen I had custom made from a Lister Peter engine.

I could go on and on.

I've posted pics of my reloading man cave on this forum before ... it would allow be to reload for a long time ... well into six digits, doubling my current stores.


A complete hard copy library of "When there is no doctor" and various other books ... even the Firefox series.

Hardened comms in Faraday cages. (ask me, it's easy)

We practice twice a year, winter and summer extremes, by shutting down for 72 hours.

I love these kind of threads and wish more people would get on board ... it's coming one day, be prepared.

Ask me if you have questions.

Good for everyone already with the program.


Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:37 pm to
Answer
NO ONE is prepared for this long term.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44030 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:37 pm to
quote:

Is this true?

Yes.
It’s called ERCOT—the Electric Reliability Council of Texas.
Here’s a Wikipedia link as well.

As for why we have our own grid, this link addresses it; but there are many other sources that tell the same story:
quote:

Bottom line: Texas has its own grid to avoid dealing with the feds.

This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 1:40 pm
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37681 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

Thankfully, Texas has its own grid.
(to avoid dealing with FedGov)
So unless some rabble-rousers were specifically targeting TX, we good.



I like what Texas is doing ... notice more and more of it every year I am there, especially the wind turbines this last trip.

But Texas would be subject to the same EMP failure as the rest ... although not as devastating. The peoblem with Texas is fresh water. Deep wells. But that's overcomeable provided you can get to the oasises in time and away from the big cities.
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
13275 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:39 pm to
I live in a shack and I poop in an outhouse.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74045 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:40 pm to
Damn rooster hopefully you will let me in if the shite hits the fan

Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37344 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:41 pm to
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Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44030 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:42 pm to
That’s what the 9 aquifers are for.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261134 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:47 pm to
We have our own grid for the city.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37681 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:55 pm to
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Damn rooster hopefully you will let me in if the shite hits the fan


We might ... if you have a valuable skill.

Our club, what we call our Gun Club which is licensed and private, isnin essence a preparedness club.

We order ammo in bulk as well as freeze dried foods.

We have two doctors (and Internist and Urologist who is also a surgeon. We have a husband and wife dentist and oral surgeon. We have two mechicanial enginners and two mechanics. We have three farmers and one wife horticulturist. We have an electrical engineer and two electricians. We have three nurses (all three wives). Several of the above are ex-military and several other military types are members. All members are married and financially secure and prep on their own bit we're all coming together if the shtf ... we all prep the same and offer redundancy to one another for the sake and security of our families.

It's not difficult to do ... more people are doing it than most realize.

We would survive solar flairs and EMPs (ala One Second After which, BTW we hold a yearly retreat to Black Mountain and hablve for years ... long before the book came out. We're also about to hold our year fish camp retreat in March which is my favorite of all our get-togethers each year.)

What would be tougher to survive would be all-out nuclear war of course.

An asteroid impact larger than 800 meters in this hemisphere ... especially one that impacted in the South Atlantic.

A Yellowstone caldera eruption .... but that one would depend upon the time of year and where the jet stream was dipping at the time.

Those would be extinction type events but we could survive different levels and not other levels, it just all depends.If the grid were to go down though ... we've got that. Although city dwellers would be absolutely screwed in short order.

Most of us got serious about it after Katrina. Some of us were just raised that way ... it's in our DNA.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44030 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:57 pm to
Your people and my people would get along well, friend.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16248 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:00 pm to
Lot of smoke and a lot of noise. In that situation, I pity any outsiders that trek through the wilderness to try and locate us.


I don't think they'd get through the traps.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37681 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

That’s what the 9 aquifers are for.


You need to be near the rivers in Texas .... and then have redundant ways to purify.

Trying to pull water out of a deep Texas well with the grid down would be next to impossible once the fuel ran our or the gennies went down.

My Texas family are all super preppers ... we're all from the same grandfather and he preached it to our Dads and Mothers ... and he was El Paso born and bred. Rough South West Texas country. I knew where every oasis was within 20k acres down there by the time I was 10.

But I get what you are saying EKG yet I'll say what my Grandpappy used to say all the time ... when the day comes when it all reverts back to the old ways in Texas, the only ones that will survive are old school Texans and the Mexicans.

Texas is different.
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