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How does one successfully argue with a liberal?

Posted on 2/12/18 at 12:58 pm
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41455 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 12:58 pm
I have this one liberal friend who always starts political arguments. I usually just ignore it but when I decide to engage him with facts and well-thought out statements, he just counters with idiotic statements and tries to call me stupid, acts as though he's completely oblivious as to what the left has done over the years and what they're doing now, pretends the Russian collusion story is still regarded as fact, and just acts as though Trump is going to kill me and my grandmother (his words, not exaggerated generalizations).

How do you even remain engaged in debate with someone like this? The temptation to stoop to his level is high but I remain calm and usually just end it there. I hate ending it there, though, because it usually makes me feel like he thinks he won and I lost, when in reality I'm just literally at a loss for words on how to respond to his ignorance.

How do you argue with a liberal?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66952 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:02 pm to
Check their privelege and counter with their own quotes from 2 years ago
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53770 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:03 pm to
Trying to argue policy with a liberal isblike trying to teach calculus to a 5 year old. They do not have the necessary tools to understand what you are saying and you will just get frustrated. You just pat them on the head and agree. Liberalism is an immaturity. College age kids should be liberals because they should want to change the world but tgey should eventually grow out of it and the ones that dont are tge idiots among is.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21850 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:03 pm to
Try facts.

For reference, Breitbart, GatewayPundit, Fox News, and this board don't give you facts. They give you propaganda.

Show your friend some facts next time.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:04 pm to
Just ignore them.

When you tell a fat arse or a drug addict they have issues they get defensive. Same thing with liberals.

They will never change until they decide on their own.
Posted by DrunkerThanThou
Unfortunately Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
2846 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by BDTigerfan
Bay St Louis
Member since Aug 2016
142 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:04 pm to
Ignore him and go on with your life. They will NEVER admit a Democrat has ever done anything wrong, EVER.

You cannot have a rational conversation with an irrational person.

Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
165962 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:04 pm to
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How do you argue with a liberal?



frick his husband.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37349 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:05 pm to
You don’t. You let them go play in their own feces like a retard.
Posted by bengalfan50
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
2465 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:08 pm to
LINK
From FB still thought it was pretty good description of the mentality of a liberal.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112331 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:08 pm to
1. You better know your stuff. If you've read the books on a variety of issues you have a tremendous advantage over people who are just repeating talking points.

2. Recognize the 'sluff'. This is the technique of ignoring your rebuttal and going back to the assertion that has already been refuted. In 'wife' debate this is known as circular argumentation.
'Wife' debate goes in this circle:
Her: "I'm fat."
You: "No, you're 5-7, 114."
Her: 'That's fat.'
You: "No, according the AMA standards your measurements make you thin."
Her: "I'm fat."
You:
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

You cannot have a rational conversation with an irrational person


A total waste of time. Laugh in their face. Ridicule them mercilessly. Bully and insult them at every opportunity. It's what they deserve for being idiots.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51788 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:08 pm to
Tell them they are stupid as shite and then walk off. Anything they say will prove you right.
Posted by Jokey1968
In a house
Member since Oct 2015
360 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:09 pm to
Facts are good to use, but most liberals I know just ignore them.

You’d be better off buying them a Captain Kangaroo dvd and tell them to enjoy it, and move on. Let them figure out why?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:10 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 5:02 pm
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10821 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:10 pm to
When you talk a subject, keep them on that fricking subject.

They don’t want to dig into the details.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13417 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:10 pm to
I found your problem:


quote:

I have this one liberal friend
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67474 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

How does one successfully argue with a liberal?

By not doing it

Profit
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141386 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:10 pm to
The three stages of arguing with a liberal:

!) You make your point

Liberal: "That's completely inaccurate"

2) You prove your point is accurate:

Liberal: "Yes your point may be technically accurate, but you are unfeeling and can't possibly understand."

3) You point out they've moved from a factual argument to ad hominem attacks

Liberal: "You are a racist"
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259248 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 1:11 pm to
Blah blah bla RACIST!

That's how it goes
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