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re: How do you deprogram these people?

Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15416 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:30 pm to
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There is no cohesive set of ideas/policies for Trumpism/MAGA other than "I'm against whatever my perceived opponent is for".


What Biden policies do you support?
Posted by SoFlaGuy
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Apr 2020
2379 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:34 pm to
If I’m on the cult side and not the cut my dick off or tits off or pedophile side, I’m fine being in a cult.

Liberals are the scum of the Earth. Everyone here knows that.

If shite hits the fan, libs will thank the alpha who protected them.
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
4079 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:37 pm to
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How do you deprogram these people?


with a wood chipper
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15416 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:46 pm to
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But too many of his supporters believe any disagreement with anything he says or does is treasonous. That's worrisome.


This sounds an awfull lot like supporters of our continued entangling alliance with Ukraine
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26877 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:04 pm to
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On the other hand though a cult has taken over the right who idolizes not the nation but a politician, and have no qualm with twisting logic into a pretzel and abandoning their principles at the drop of a hat to rationalize everything he says.


So most MAGA-types love the vaccine?

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Worse everything is a conspiracy...


True.

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...and they seem to have an outright hatred for the country.


Please explain this bit.
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
3561 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:58 pm to
The biggest mistake you people are making is thinking the revolt against the Marxist bullshite that has overtaken the democrat party is about Trump. He's nothing more than a figurehead.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:02 pm to
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What Biden policies do you support?

I don't know if I support any of them, but I don't vote DEM, so...
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15416 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:04 pm to
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I don't know if I support any of them


You must be one of those MAGA cultists then just opposing all of Biden’s awesome policies because Trump told you to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:08 pm to
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Ladies and Gentlemen! SlowFlowPro has officially announced that George Bush the elder and George Bush the younger WERE MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN TRUMP!

Zach you lost track of the discussion. I said both had more support from their party than Trump, using actual data (supporters in Congress and the Senate, showing popular support).

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They didn't attack the Bush's for being far right neat as much as Trump (the second coming of Hitler).

How you forget how the Left treated both of them









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They know Trump is way to the right of the Bushes

On what? Immigration? And?

Not the economy or military...and I hope you're not arguing that Trump is a symbol of social conservatism/religion.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:10 pm to
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You must be one of those MAGA cultists then just opposing all of Biden’s awesome policies because Trump told you to

No. I support specific policies, not people.

It's not shocking you thought that was clever, though.

My position isn't "anti-DEM" or "pro-Trump" and doesn't shift with the messaging of either (unlike MAGA, which does). My preferred policies are set regardless of what either state.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32915 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:14 pm to
According to the Cult Education Institute, there are specific warning signs to look out for when considering whether a group might be a cult. Cults are characterized by:

1. Absolute authoritarianism without accountability = The Left
2. Zero tolerance for criticism or questions = The Left
3. Lack of meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget = The Left
4. Unreasonable fears about the outside world that often involve evil conspiracies and persecutions = The Left (Climate Change, LGBTQ)
5. A belief that former followers are always wrong for leaving and there is never a legitimate reason for anyone else to leave = The Left
6. Abuse of members = The Left
7. Records, books, articles, or programs documenting the abuses of the leader or group = The Left
8. Followers feeling they are never able to be “good enough” = The Left
9. A belief that the leader is right at all times = The Left
10. A belief that the leader is the exclusive means of knowing “truth” or giving validation = The Left
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15416 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:16 pm to
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It's not shocking you thought that was clever, though.


No, it’s to illustrate the stupidity of your statement.

I don’t need Trump to tell me which policies to support or not to support and I’ve arrived at those conclusions independent of Trump. I’d support the same policies if anyone else not named Trump were running as a Republican.

Because of your arrogance and unbelievable stupidity you assume that because someone supports or doesn’t support a particular policy it’s must be tied to their support of Trump.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13686 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:17 pm to
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The cult is the left. The right thinks for themselves. Hence why we didn’t comply and volunteer for the social experiment injection.


Exactly. No denying the proof. The left wanted nothing to do with the vax because Trump fast tracked it. Then CNN and their leftist overlords told them to get it and they villified the right for thinking for themselves.

Now the health issues are popping up (like the free thinkers said) and the left of course are blaming Trump. I actually argued with some of these idiots on sites and they said Trump was the one that forced the mandates. People really are idiots.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:30 pm to
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Because of your arrogance and unbelievable stupidity

lol

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you assume that because someone supports or doesn’t support a particular policy it’s must be tied to their support of Trump.

Incorrect. Literally not what I said in any way, shape, or form.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15416 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:31 pm to
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Literally not what I said in any way, shape, or form.


"I'm against whatever my perceived opponent is for".
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74778 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:32 pm to
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How do you deprogram these people?
quote:

I feel like America is lost

You're the hardest type.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:34 pm to
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"I'm against whatever my perceived opponent is for".

That applies to a specific population, and has been displayed ITT by multiple posters.

Which is a completely different statement than this

quote:

you assume that because someone supports or doesn’t support a particular policy it’s must be tied to their support of Trump.


My assumption is that if someone says "I'm against [preconceived opponent]" then they're being sincere (and it makes them very likely a cult member).

That is wholly different than what you described, which was a person displaying a specific stance on a specific policy.

Posted by JEC119
Alabama
Member since Apr 2024
2122 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:41 pm to
I think the left is the cult of all cults.

Watch Biden…listen to him try to talk and then look around at the shite show we got going on.

Biden would be forced into retirement if he was a manager or ceo of any business so as not to bring that business down.

For some reason though the left thinks he should be the leader of the Country.

Damn everything else! That is a cult!

Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15416 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:45 pm to
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That applies to a specific population, and has been displayed ITT by multiple posters.


No, that’s your myopic view of people you dislike and most likely it’s a projection from you borne out of TDS.

You’re every bit the cultist you claim MAGA is, the only difference is you’re in the cult of MAGA hate.

Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21107 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:58 pm to
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But too many of his supporters believe any disagreement with anything he says or does is treasonous. That's worrisome


THAT is the problem! Define " too many". Your statement is simply not accurate. I fully support Trump. Is he the absolute best and well equipped person for President to turn our country around? Probably not.
Newsflash: Trump is the best available at this time.
I don't see what you describe, Trump supporters blindly supporting everything he says.
To be honest, it would take a much more divisive and radical leader to correct Americas path than Trump. If folks truly understood how fricked this country is, how close we are to true totalitarian rule we are...... They run from the progressive left.
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