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How Denmark Dumped Medical Malpractice and Improved Patient Safety

Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:32 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:32 am
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How Denmark Dumped Medical Malpractice and Improved Patient Safety

In the U.S., patients harmed during medical care have few avenues for redress. The Danes chose to forget about fault and focus on what’s fair.


by Olga Pierce and Marshall Allen
Dec. 31, 2015


COPENHAGEN — It was a distressingly close call. A patient had been sent home from the hospital with instructions to take a common medication at a dose that would have poisoned her.

When Dr. Ole Hamberg heard about the mistake, he decided to investigate.

Hamberg, the head liver specialist at Rigshospitalet, the Danish national hospital, soon found something troubling. The hospital’s electronic prescribing system was mistakenly prompting doctors to give the drug, methotrexate, for daily use when it is safely taken only once or twice a week.

Patients throughout Denmark were being poisoned, Hamberg learned, thanks to the medical error. At his hospital, Hamberg made sure prescribing protocols were fixed and doctors and patients were informed. The problem quickly abated.

Hamberg was able to rapidly see a dangerous pattern because of something that doesn’t exist in the United States: A comprehensive national program to compensate victims of patient harm — and to learn from them by collecting and analyzing the data their experiences provide.

Patients who’d been overdosed filed claims under the compensation program, which makes its data available to hospitals and researchers. “Of course I use this information in my department,” Hamberg said. “We discuss how we can avoid this injury the next time.”

The Danish system offers lessons for policymakers in the United States, where medical harm remains widespread and the mechanisms for addressing it are often cumbersome and adversarial. The Danes’ primary focus is on helping patients who have been hurt by the health care system. While the reams of data gathered from claims aren’t used to publicly rate doctors and hospitals, or to systematically search for bad actors, they can help flag providers who have repeat errors and may pose a risk.
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The U.S. system for compensating injured patients — medical malpractice lawsuits — effectively shuts out patients when the potential damages are small. Proving negligence, the usual standard for winning compensation, is difficult. There are scant incentives for doctors and hospitals to apologize, reveal details about what happened, or report errors that might unveil a pattern.

Denmark offers a radically different alternative, as do similar programs in other Scandinavian countries ...

Common to all these programs is a commitment to provide information and compensation to patients regardless of whether negligence is involved. That lowers the bar of entry for patients and doesn’t pit doctors against them, enabling providers to be open about what happened.
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If a patient believes negligence was involved, it can be reported to a parallel system for professional discipline.

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Posted by 20MuleTeam
West Hartford
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 6:10 am to
So you're in favor of single payer? Good
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 6:18 am to
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Medical Malpractice

Here's an idea; get rid of the quacks......yeah AMA I'm talking to you.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 7:00 am to
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Medical Malpractice

Here's an idea; get rid of the quacks.....
In 86% of medmal courtrooms, the jury finds the physician not negligent.
Still it costs $24,000 - $90,000 to defend each case.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 7:02 am
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 7:37 am to
My wife is a physician and in 10yrs has never been sued nor one of her partners sued for anything. She does lumbar punctures and so do her partners, she also wors very closely with Nuerosurgeons, non of which have been sued. It really should go a away. Just another regulatory system to protect less than 1 percent of the population but cost the other 99 percent a shitload.
Posted by Gaspergou202
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 8:03 am to
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The U.S. system for compensating injured patients — medical malpractice lawsuits — effectively shuts out patients when the potential damages are small. Proving negligence

So negligible claims are paid, and cases not caused by negligence are paid! Add that to regular malpractice and the cost of medical treatment increases for all! Wow, what a crappy proposition. It's on redeeming quality is the elimination of lawyers from healthcare.
Posted by PacLSU
I have been a
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 8:30 am to
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So you're in favor of single payer? Good

Yes, but only for groups of < 6M people with a > 95% racial homogeneity.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 8:31 am to
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and the cost of medical treatment increases for all!
Not even close.

Why?

Because the US tort system is the most expensive, most inefficient system in the world.

How expensive and inefficient?

Well Gaspergou, if we implemented the Danish System here, and we paid out TWICE the money we currently do to plaintiffs in awards, it would still cost us less than our current system.

Got it?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 8:40 am to
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Here's an idea; get rid of the quacks
People think medicine is like auto repair.

Hell. Obama actually used tat analogy.

People are stupid
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:02 am to
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So you're in favor of single payer?


More like tort reform in medical lawsuits. Such suits and the malpractice insurance needed in case of them are a big contributor (but not the largest) to the cost of healthcare.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:06 am to
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People think medicine is like auto repair.

Hell. Obama actually used tat analogy.

People are stupid


You do realize that auto techs, at least ones who are doing things the right way, also have insurance to protect themselves in case things go wrong , right?

In that way, the two professions are alike.

Posted by bonhoeffer45
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:22 am to
Great piece. I would just add if embraced and tried, even on a small scale at first like suggested, gotta find a way to make sure the damn insurers actually pass the savings onto the doctors who should get it.

Which as I have read is one of the issues with current reforms. You cap malpractice in places in the hopes of bringing down costs in the areas you want it brought down and then some insurers just pocket the difference.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:06 am to
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Great piece. I would just add if embraced and tried, even on a small scale at first like suggested, gotta find a way to make sure the damn insurers actually pass the savings onto the doctors who should get it.
Doctors should pay about what they pay now, at least for the initial period.
Actual tort reform would be about helping injured patients receive timely awards, with less stress, and at far lower cost. It would concomitantly lower costs of defensive medicine, and allow greater public access to error tracking and quality analysis.

Just crazy this is not receiving air time in the US.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:08 am to
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You do realize that auto techs, at least ones who are doing things the right way, also have insurance to protect themselves in case things go wrong , right?

In that way, the two professions are alike.

Jump.

My point flew over your head
Posted by 9th life
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:08 am to
Great link. Thanks for posting.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:13 am to
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You cap malpractice in places in the hopes of bringing down costs in the areas you want it brought down and then some insurers just pocket the difference.




The loser in the cap states are the people that have been injured, its a shitty system.

Thats an interesting article and a forward view of a system (ours) that needs an overhaul.

All I know is what I see on my end. 10 years ago we had zero med mal cases, today its probably 35 to 40% of our business. We get 25 or so looks every month and usually take 4 or 5 of those where the damages and liability are a slam dunk. We are talking gross negligence, we are winning at the panel level which is unheard of.

This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 10:16 am
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14563 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:34 am to
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Just another regulatory system to protect less than 1 percent of the population but cost the other 99 percent a shitload.


Sounds strangely familiar. Oh, yea this the main premise of Obamacare.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:36 am to
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The loser in the cap states are the people that have been injured
In our current system where successful plaintiffs only receive 46% of their award, the losers in any state are the people who have been injured. Caps make it worse. But with the escalating impact of tort on costs and quality in US healthcare, we are all losers.
Posted by Bullethead88
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:39 am to
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In 86% of medmal courtrooms, the jury finds the physician not negligent.

Not that meaningful a stat since the cases that end up having to go to trial are usually weak on liability.

In what % on the cases filed are there significant settlements made before trial?






















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Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:42 am to
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Not that meaningful a stat
It's a Goddamned meaningful stat for the doctor being dragged into court!
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