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re: How can you claim to be inclusive when you call half of america backward?

Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
46082 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:14 pm to
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I think the idea is that we want to be inclusive and fight for equality of races, cultures, men and women

as long as they believe what we think they should believe. If however, they think differently and vote differently, then that is just shitty behavior.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
16642 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:14 pm to
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You poor whiny victim Maybe learning to articulate would help you


Thanks for the perfect illustration.



Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:15 pm to
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agree...Should need to be in school or learning a trade as an apprentice, etc.

Children muddy the waters but there has to be a way to ensure a child receives basic needs and education without enabling healthy adults to never work.


The above opinion is all good but you'll never get any of that............EVER........if you genuinely can't see that the people who have decided to make EVERYTHING about identity are worse than the fricking fringe of the right.

Your party openly cavorts with the likes of Farrakhan and then has a conniption because Trump won't come out and say nasty shite about insignificant trailer dwellers.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:15 pm to
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This board does little to assuage that notion.


Your condescension of Trump voters never helps your cause, whatever that is
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:16 pm to
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If some Republican offered to cut off welfare in accordance with what Dev typed..........that dude would make the press coverage of Trump look like a full time rhetorical blow job.

Same would be true of anyone who tried to reform welfare. We went through the same thing in NOLA when we were tearing down the brownstone project buildings. People were protesting tearing those awful things down and replacing them with nicer mixed income houses. Unreal.

You guys assume I am some sort of hardcore liberal because of the dynamics of the board. The conservative to liberal imbalance mixed with how the board is moderated creates a hostile and defensive dynamic for liberal posters. Not to mention you are usually so bored with circle jerking each other that a liberal poster replying in a thread will get like 6 or 7 replies per post.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
46082 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:16 pm to
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im not gonna respect the legitimacy of a skinheads political views

You don't have to. All you have to do is understand that as an American citizen, they have the right to have those views and to vote. Your approval of their views and intentions is not required.
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 1:17 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:16 pm to
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Your condescension of Trump voters never helps your cause, whatever that is

The dude votes based on his skin color. It is what it is.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
72963 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:16 pm to
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he reason I can not vote for Republicans in national elections is because the ugly side of the right is far less tolerable to me than the ugly side of the left.
What was the ugly side of John McCain or Mitt Romney?
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19243 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:17 pm to
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Conservatives are opposed to an ENORMOUS amount of the status quo.

You probably need to get out more.


So are you saying they want to move backwards?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:17 pm to
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I think the idea is that we want to be inclusive and fight for equality of races, cultures, men and women


Democrats are doing a horrible job of transmitting this message

Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:17 pm to
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And they complain about stupid voters, but support universal suffrage.

It's funny how so many supposedly educated liberals didn't even know about the Electoral College before 2016.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
46082 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:18 pm to
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I've broken bread with Trump voters. Not all bad people

they're just shitty voters, right?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:18 pm to
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quote:
Any issue of inequality. Best example is the incarceration rates for marijuana for minorities vs white folks. Same crime. Different statistical outcome.


Why aren't you protesting blatant favoritism toward women in the CJ system?


No answer here?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:19 pm to
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So are you saying they want to move backwards?


What is moving forwards in your opinion?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:19 pm to
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Same would be true of anyone who tried to reform welfare.
I dont know how old you are, but I was an adult during the last major welfare reform(under Clinton/Repub Congress)

The left went ape shite.

quote:


You guys assume I am some sort of hardcore liberal because of the dynamics of the board.
No. Honestly, I can tell that like many blacks I know that talk like run of the mill conservatives, you vote based on skin color.

I know that it's hard to accept because you like to think of yourself as better than that.

But the black voting monolith is what it is for ONE reason. And it isn't ideology. Ideologically, blacks are almost certainly at least as diverse as any other group.

They vote as if they all share one brain though.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:19 pm to
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The above opinion is all good but you'll never get any of that............EVER........if you genuinely can't see that the people who have decided to make EVERYTHING about identity are worse than the fricking fringe of the right.

Your party openly cavorts with the likes of Farrakhan and then has a conniption because Trump won't come out and say nasty shite about insignificant trailer dwellers.
You seem to be missing the historical context of racism towards blacks in particular. There is a reasonable sensitivity to the far right's penchant for reminiscing about "the good ole days". Those days weren't so great for some...

Like I said, both parties are dead wrong on some stuff and right on other stuff...But there are certain types of behavior that I can't at all tolerate or be associated with. I don't see even reasonable conservatives standing against these folks so I typically vote dem.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:21 pm to
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So are you saying they want to move backwards?


LOL. That's a liberal for ya.

All change they want = "moving forward"

All change the other guy wants = "moving backwards"

Do you even listen to yourself?
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69617 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:21 pm to
Shouldn’t the liberals want Putin and Russia

After all they want ridiculous gun control laws and communism
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:21 pm to
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There is a reasonable sensitivity to the far right's penchant for reminiscing about "the good ole days".


Simply because you add your own context based on bias
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69617 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:22 pm to
Yeah and their POV changes by the week
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