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re: Homosexuality not caused by genetics. They ar not "born that way ETA Addit link added
Posted on 7/4/17 at 7:40 pm to CrimsonTideMD
Posted on 7/4/17 at 7:40 pm to CrimsonTideMD
quote:Calvinism is based on the scriptures, but to satisfy the request:
Calvinism is a derivation. I want to know the scripture you base your beliefs upon
We are born in sin
We are by nature (as humans) "creatures of wrath"
All sin and no one does good
Those born of women (all mankind) are unrighteous
Sin came in to the world through Adam and through him, all have sinned
quote:I didn't say they have committed sin (though it could be argued that a lack of faith even as a child could be considered sinful, but I'll let that slide for sake of the argument). All people (including infants) are judged by Adam's sin or by Christ's righteousness.
They are squishy and innocence because they are, especially newborns. They are no more capable of committing sin than they are confessing for it; they simply have no awareness or culpability at that point.
quote:I'm definitely not responsible for your sin (nor you for mine) but we both are judged by Adam's sin if we aren't "in" Christ. Original sin is a very important part of the Christian faith going back to the beginning.
And federal headship?!?!? You've got to be kidding me. I'm no more responsible for "adam's" sin than you are for mine.
If you think it's stupid that we could be judged as guilty because of Adam's sin then you have just done away with the whole Christian religion, and not just because of original sin, but because the sacrificial death of Jesus only "works" if He's a representative of mankind. He can't die for my sin if He can't be judged for my sin. If Christ isn't my federal head, I'm still in sin and am on my way to Hell with everyone else who has ever lived.
By throwing out federal headship, you think you're helping innocent babies, but in doing so, you do away with Christ's sacrifice and now every single person who has ever lived is damned for Adam's sin and their own.
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Posted on 7/4/17 at 8:44 pm to Errerrerrwere
Eight "major" studies......well, I know of nine major studies that have concluded through researching primates that they all display direct traits supporting the link between humans and great apes.
See. It must be fact. Darwin FTW
See. It must be fact. Darwin FTW
Posted on 7/4/17 at 8:49 pm to CharlesLSU
Posted on 7/4/17 at 8:50 pm to CharlesLSU
quote:
Eight "major" studies......well, I know of nine major studies that have concluded through researching primates that they all display direct traits supporting the link between humans and great apes.
See. It must be fact. Darwin FTW
Posted on 7/4/17 at 8:59 pm to Errerrerrwere
Lots of upvotes for a debunked article.
Yeesh.
Yeesh.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:00 pm to skrayper
Not one of you cucks debunked it.
Tell me the exact gene number or allele that had the homosexual mutation.
I'll wait...
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:02 pm to AUstar
quote:
if it's not genetic and it's not a choice, then WTF is it?
It's based on life experiences IMO. How the person was raised as a child, their relationship to people of each sex, etc. If you were raised without a dad, you're more likely to be effeminate, more likely to have women as friends, and therefore more likely to see men as different and attractive than you are to see women that way
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:04 pm to Errerrerrwere
quote:
Not one of you cucks debunked it.
You live in an alternate (fact) reality.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:04 pm to cwill
Still waiting on what chromosome causes it...
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:12 pm to llfshoals
You mean humans have sexual impulses tha they can choose to act on? Ya don't say?!
Sure. Gays choose to act on an impulse. That's also true of straight people. Nothing Earth-shattering about that. Why there is that impulse and attraction to the same sex is the real debate. Your "logic" doesn't address that.
So if your point was that gays can choose to not act on their same sex attraction, um, you win, I guess. Doesn't really touch on the real debate, though...
Sure. Gays choose to act on an impulse. That's also true of straight people. Nothing Earth-shattering about that. Why there is that impulse and attraction to the same sex is the real debate. Your "logic" doesn't address that.
So if your point was that gays can choose to not act on their same sex attraction, um, you win, I guess. Doesn't really touch on the real debate, though...
This post was edited on 7/4/17 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:28 pm to AUstar
quote:
I never bought the "genetic" argument because it makes no sense from an evolutionary perspective; gayness does not increase fitness or reproductive success, thus there is ZERO reason for humans to evolve the trait.
What's the evolutionary advantage to auto-immune problems like RA?
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:29 pm to Jorts R Us
Another strawman
The argument is that it's genetic. Which none of you can prove.
So, stay in topic
The argument is that it's genetic. Which none of you can prove.
So, stay in topic
This post was edited on 7/4/17 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:33 pm to Errerrerrwere
My post is a response to another poster who says he doesn't buy into the generic argument because there is no evolutionary advantage to homosexuality. That's flawed logic, IMO and I brought RA as an example. Auto-immune issues, as far as I know, provide no evolutionary benefit. I contrast that against something like sickle cell trait where carriers are more resistant to parasitic infections of the blood such as malaria.
How can I be off-topic if I'm responding to another post?
How can I be off-topic if I'm responding to another post?
This post was edited on 7/4/17 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:37 pm to Errerrerrwere
Scientists find DNA differences between gay men and their straight twin brothers
Your article is from 2013, this is from 2015
Your article is from 2013, this is from 2015
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:38 pm to Jorts R Us
Because this thread is about 8 extensive researches done about the genetics of homosexuality.
And most of these 17 pages are the left using strawman arguements, accusations, and bullying to try to be their points across.
All without naming the ONE gene that is fricked up in the human body to make someone homosexual or not.
And most of these 17 pages are the left using strawman arguements, accusations, and bullying to try to be their points across.
All without naming the ONE gene that is fricked up in the human body to make someone homosexual or not.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:40 pm to Errerrerrwere
Thank you.
I'm tired of hearing that nonsense as if genetics effects a person's sexual desire.
No. It does not.
Sexual preference is learned like all behavioral traits.
Trying to use that excuse as a cop-out is pathetic. Just own it instead of trying to force it down all of our throats like you're a victim and had no choice like a person being born a different race or ethnicity (which is very offensive).
I'm tired of hearing that nonsense as if genetics effects a person's sexual desire.
No. It does not.
Sexual preference is learned like all behavioral traits.
Trying to use that excuse as a cop-out is pathetic. Just own it instead of trying to force it down all of our throats like you're a victim and had no choice like a person being born a different race or ethnicity (which is very offensive).
This post was edited on 7/4/17 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:40 pm to Errerrerrwere
Again, I responded to a post in this thread. Sorry that gets your panties in a bunch but that's how message boards work.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:46 pm to Jorts R Us
quote:
You mean humans have sexual impulses tha they can choose to act on? Ya don't say?!
Sure. Gays choose to act on an impulse. That's also true of straight people. Nothing Earth-shattering about that. Why there is that impulse and attraction to the same sex is the real debate. Your "logic" doesn't address that.
So if your point was that gays can choose to not act on their same sex attraction, um, you win, I guess. Doesn't really touch on the real debate, though...
Flimsy argument.
Pedophiles do too, so apparently they are victims of genetics as well right?
After all what you're arguing is genetics is possibly giving the impulse. So why is what they do punishable by law here?
The reality is the genetics argument is bullshite. Behavior is learned not passed down through DNA. I like exotic women with athletic figures because my experinces in life, not because my father and mothers DNA required I do.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:47 pm to YStar
I just want the answer. I don't care if you're gay. It's none of my business. And I'm highly defensive about civil liberties.
What I don't like is the left's ability to shape science into politics when it suits their needs.
What I don't like is the left's ability to shape science into politics when it suits their needs.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:51 pm to YStar
quote:
Flimsy argument
Exactly what was my argument?
I've never argued that homosexuality is based on genetics. All of that was in response to a poster who said being gay was a choice. Apparently what he meant was choosing to act on gay impulses is a choice, which is a fair statement but it hardly addresses why those impulses are there in the first place. That was my point. It's not an "argument" for or against the findings of this study.
Sorry you can't read.
This post was edited on 7/4/17 at 9:52 pm
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