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re: Hey SFP. We aren't giving up on the life issue, so stop harping on it

Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:26 pm to
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The vast majority of Americans support at least some abortion rights



once upon a time the vast majority supported slav...*ughem* PROPERTY rights as well
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:26 pm to
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It most certianly has not. The fraud has spoken. Period.




the stupid public defender thinks TRUMP TWEETS and ABORTION and BETTER CANDIDATES are why there were some losses.

not fraud or marxism

Posted by NM Tiger 67
Member since Oct 2022
288 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:27 pm to
I frankly think it's pathetic that he claimed to have been conservative but for this ONE issue, shifts him the other way.

I spent the first 35 years of my life pro-choice and STILL had the good fricking sense to not vote for Democrats.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31738 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:28 pm to
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Red state. Irrelevant to the discussion.



Florida has been a red state all of 2 years. RD won by less than 40k votes.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61881 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:28 pm to
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Well he had the stain of Trump on him, but Fetterman won b/c of the DEM turnout, as has been stated 100x.



So, abortion had nothing to do with it.

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Incumbent with a political machine and no Trump stain.



So, abortion had nothing to do with it.

quote:

How is Heschell doing?



The guy who is accused of paying for multiple abortions for his girlfriends?

quote:

Uh, she had to walk back her comments on moderate abortion policies


So, you admit that she certainly isn't viewed as a hardline anti-abortion candidate.

quote:

Red state. Irrelevant to the discussion.





SFP: You will lose if you keep pushing abortion.

Me: Why? Many of the candidates who lost weren't extreme, and many who won were very pro-life.

SFP: Cause Trump.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465296 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:29 pm to
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the stupid public defender



Posted by NM Tiger 67
Member since Oct 2022
288 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:30 pm to
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Another thing that's absurd is how expensive it is to adopt



It's absurdly expensive because there's virtually no supply. A lot of people look at foster numbers and mistakenly think this means unwanted BABIES aren't being adopted. To the contrary. Unwanted babies STILL basically "fly off the shelves" regardless of race.

I do agree that we make it absurdly too difficult to adopt but that's another discussion.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465296 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:30 pm to
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Florida has been a red state all of 2 years. RD won by less than 40k votes.

Look at its history of governors and senators. Very few DEMs elected to those positions the past 20 years. Dominated by Republicans
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28038 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:30 pm to
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the stupid public defender thinks TRUMP TWEETS and ABORTION and BETTER CANDIDATES are why there were some losses.

not fraud or marxism




they have fallen for the mind games and allowed themselves to be played by believing this shite
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:35 pm to
Not only will they cut off their nose to spite their face, they will gladly use a big orange chain saw to do it.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:37 pm to
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do genuinely think that the right just gets off on controlling women and that's why they want abortion gone and not that we see it as a great evil.


The sickening part is they don't even consider the innocence of the baby in the matter. The baby's life is nothing because they feel there's an "injustice" taking place. Imagine allowing the murder of millions of friends, family, neighbors, and potentially great, civilization changing beings just to get a point across. And that point isn't even a legitimate one. Completely exists only in their hateful head.

They really believe it's less evil to take a life. There is no one on this planet that could be considered more of a victim than a child beginning life.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30348 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:44 pm to
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Then you will continue to lose.

The country has spoken


Young, dumb leftists girls have spoken.

And forged mail in ballots.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465296 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:44 pm to
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So, abortion had nothing to do with it.

I wouldn't say nothing. Do you know what was the #1 issue for 75-78% of D voters? Abortion

The question is how much abortion did for turnout, in PA.

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So, abortion had nothing to do with it.

I think it's hurting Herschel

This isn't a single issue situation. Nobody is saying abortion was the only issue. It was very radioactive in many purple states and likely led to losses.

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So, you admit that she certainly isn't viewed as a hardline anti-abortion candidate.

Dude can you read? She had to walk back her moderate positions after attacks by her base and re-adopted an extremist position

Which means she doesn't actually believe in abortion bans, but it's politically necessary to campaign on it

quote:

SFP: You will lose if you keep pushing abortion.

Me: Why? Many of the candidates who lost weren't extreme, and many who won were very pro-life.

SFP: Cause Trump.

Dude, you're not looking at the big picture.

You can run it up in red states all you want. Can you win the EC or a majority in Congress with only red states?

You have to win purple areas. GA (now), VA, NC, PA, WI, MI, AZ, NV, etc. You're cherry picking and ignoring all the data.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465296 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:45 pm to
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because they feel there's an "injustice" taking place.

A better way to describe it is that they don't see a "bundle of cells" as a baby.

Perhaps that was the right way to address the issue, but the ship has sailed.

quote:

Imagine allowing the murder of millions of friends, family, neighbors, and potentially great, civilization changing beings just to get a point across.

Strawman
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465296 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:46 pm to
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Young, dumb leftists girls have spoken.

And suburban adult women, who historically voted GOP until the Trump era
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10333 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 4:06 pm to
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Then you will continue to lose. The country has spoken

Are you ready to talk about Marco Rubio, rand paul, Brian kemp, and Greg abbott’s results yet? Or still too stupid and afraid to make an attempt?
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10333 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 4:07 pm to
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And suburban adult women

Are you ready to talk about Texas results yet? Or still too stupid and afraid?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465296 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 4:08 pm to
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Are you ready to talk about Marco Rubio, rand paul, Brian kemp, and Greg abbott’s results yet?

2 red states of no note for this discussion

A red state that rejected an abortion ban last week

And a purple state punishing Herschel Walker for his pro-life stance?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465296 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 4:09 pm to
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Are you ready to talk about Texas results yet?

You can run it up in red states all you want.

How do you win the EC?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85577 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 4:10 pm to
SFP knows the game.

He hates black people, he doesn’t care they are being aborted.

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