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re: Here are the cliff notes from Biden's Gun Violence Speech

Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:22 pm to
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What is he talking about if it’s not lower receivers ? A lower receiver is considered a gun with a serial number and you have to have a background check.

If it isn't completely finished it isn't a gun, and doesn't have a serial number.
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:22 pm to


Talking about these. They are just forgings. A chunk of aluminum.

Whats next? Banning aluminum or drill presses?

Need a ffl to buy a cnc?
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:24 pm to
i don't see how any of that will fly with it not going through congress.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:25 pm to
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Whats next? Banning aluminum or drill presses?

Need a ffl to buy a cnc?


Both very valid points....it's a difficult problem to tackle. If it is even a problem at all.

I think its poignant to consider that before these actions were taken by Slow Joe absolutely 0 analysis was done to actually define the scope of this problem.
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:27 pm to
who's going to go through the trouble of milling out an 80% receiver when a background check will be required? might as well buy a 100% and do less work.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:29 pm to


That's not firearm.

It's a paperweight.
Posted by Yancy turnip
Somewhere
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:29 pm to
It sounds like he went after lawful gun owners with the ghost gun bull crap
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:30 pm to
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I mean it seems to me that their might be some shady folks somewhere that may have some mill working skills that could allow them to pull of the remainder of the 80% build.

The kind of people that are doing 99% of the shootings, don't plan things more than 1 hour ahead. They aren't going through the process and expense of building an AR that they will have to ditch after they use it.
Posted by ChuckO1975
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:32 pm to
These are essentially "green lights" to federal agencies and anti-White activist organizations to target political enemies. These vermin prefer not to have iron-clad, black letter law on the books, because it takes some of their discretionary, selective prosecution power from them by making it clear what is and isn't illegal.

organizations like the SPLC and Anti Defamation League have been plotting this with federal and state/local law enforcement for decades, providing them with targeting lists full of their political enemies and being extremely involved in law enforcement "terrorism" training that's essentially a list of people that don't like the ADL/SPLC and what they stand for.
Posted by VanRIch
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:33 pm to
Does this fricking idiot know what the definition of a criminal is? These people are breaking worse laws (murder) by using a legal means. You think they'll be like "Man I want to murder some people, but I don't want to break any gun laws"
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:33 pm to
Not to mention those 80% forgings are more expensive than completed lowers right now. I briefly looked last night and the ones I saw were $100.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:33 pm to
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The kind of people that are doing 99% of the shootings, don't plan things more than 1 hour ahead. They aren't going through the process and expense of building an AR that they will have to ditch after they use it.


No doubt....but is it conceivable that more sophisticated gangs like MS-13 could have some guys that can and are doing it on a regular basis. I'm not saying it is happening on a regular basis but it is conceivable in my mind.
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:34 pm to
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That's not firearm.

It's a paperweight.


Agreed.
Posted by TideCPA
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:38 pm to
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What is he talking about if it’s not lower receivers ? A lower receiver is considered a gun with a serial number and you have to have a background check.
Functional lower receivers are firearms. You can’t buy one from a licensed dealer without a background check. “Ghost guns”, or 80% receivers, are not functional receivers until they are completed. Thus, they are not firearms and are not subject to any ATF regulations.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:41 pm to
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No doubt....but is it conceivable that more sophisticated gangs like MS-13 could have some guys that can and are doing it on a regular basis. I'm not saying it is happening on a regular basis but it is conceivable in my mind.

A cheap stolen gun is perfect for committing crimes. That's what they use, then throw them away. It can't be traced back to the criminal.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:42 pm to
Did he ban sending fully automatic weapons to his pals in the drug cartels?

Asking for a friend named Barry. He's really concerned about his vatos.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 12:43 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:43 pm to
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I'm not saying it is happening on a regular basis but it is conceivable in my mind.


And they won't give 2 fricks about any laws.

My favorite home build is the guy who built and AK from a shovel.






















Man makes AK from a shovel blog pics
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:44 pm to
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(3.) Mandate all stalkers (people with restraining orders) have their guns removed and not allowed to purchase guns.


This won't stop shite!
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:44 pm to
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Mandate all stalkers (people with restraining orders) have their guns removed and not allowed to purchase guns.


This is blatantly unconstitutional, but it’s not like the constitution actually matters anymore.



Restraining orders are quite easy to get (and I’m not even arguing they shouldn’t be). It’s because they are usually targeted to very specific allegations/acts between two specific individuals. Basically, every wife separating and filing for divorce in even the most lightly contentious proceeding can get one as a matter of course. You will have people clamoring for much higher standards if you start trying to tie them generally to basic fundamental rights - or at least you should.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10298 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:47 pm to
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Mandate all stalkers (people with restraining orders) have their guns removed and not allowed to purchase guns.


Why do I have a suspension all of us "regular folks" will fall into this category before it is over with!

The government will find a way to labels us all stalkers!
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