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Here are the cliff notes from Biden's Gun Violence Speech

Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:24 am
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
5797 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:24 am
1. Regulate "ghost" guns (buy, build, shoot kits). Will regulate gun kits shipped to homes and mandate background checks for those purchases. Add serial numbers.
2. Mandate new report to be commissioned and released on gun trafficking. To assist law enforcement in capture of guns.
3. Regulate all gun accessories, like stabilizing arms for pistols, in the same fashion as suppressors.
4. Publish a sample/model legislation on Red Flag laws for states to copy and pass.
5. Appointed permanent ATF director; he is gun control advocate
6. Close loopholes by passing 3 bills currenlty in the house
(1.) close gunshow background check avoidance loophole
(2.) close FBI loophole background check; stated currently if FBI background check is not completed after 3 days, then the gun can be sold to buyer without the background check.
(3.) Mandate all stalkers (people with restraining orders) have their guns removed and not allowed to purchase guns.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 11:27 am
Posted by Northshoretiger87
Member since Apr 2016
3667 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:27 am to
Come on, man. The thing. It’s bad. Corn pop would still be here if the thing didn’t get him. Well, enough about that.

This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 11:30 am
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
12491 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:27 am to
Unless I misunderstood him, most of these, if not all, are only recommendations as of now.

At least that is what he said at the beginning of the speech
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18700 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:27 am to
I smell lawsuits.
Posted by RobertFootball
SC
Member since Mar 2021
1337 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:28 am to
Drop dead Joe. Do us all a favor.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14036 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:29 am to
quote:

(3.) Mandate all stalkers (people with restraining orders) have their guns removed and not allowed to purchase guns.



How does one label someone a stalker?

I think my neighbor is a stalker. Go take all his guns away please...
Posted by Cossatotjoe
Member since Oct 2020
938 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:29 am to
Can’t do 6 (2) by executive order. That is law.

6 (3) is already law.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 11:31 am
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29283 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:30 am to
quote:

1. Regulate "ghost" guns (buy, build, shoot kits). Will regulate gun kits shipped to homes and mandate background checks for those purchases. Add serial numbers.


Don't these guns already have SNs on the lower receiver assuming they are obtained legally???
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 11:31 am
Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
13760 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:30 am to
quote:

I think my neighbor is a stalker. Go take all his guns away please..


That's pretty much how red flag laws will be as well
"so and so said democrats are evil on fb...please go take his guns"
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 11:31 am
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19004 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:31 am to
Yea the stalker thing fixing to get killed quickly by the courts.
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
5797 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Unless I misunderstood him, most of these, if not all, are only recommendations as of now.

At least that is what he said at the beginning of the speech



I believe I heard him state some of these will be executive action and will hold up to the scrutiny of the 2nd amendment.

I think there will be an EO on the ghost guns and stabilizer stocks. They will publish the gun trafficking report and model legislation on red flag laws. They are simply advocating on the passage of the 3 loopholes he mentioned, not writing EO for those.

That is my take away.
Posted by djmed
Member since Aug 2020
2582 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:33 am to
this will do absolutely ZERO to slow or stop mass shootings
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10341 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:34 am to
quote:

Don't these guns already have SNs on the lower receiver assuming they are obtained legally???
No, because they're not guns.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
16984 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:34 am to
quote:

Mandate all stalkers (people with restraining orders) have their guns removed and not allowed to purchase guns.


And the slippery slope begins. A person not convicted of a crime having his rights taken away. If you're going to take rights away, the person needs to be convicted of a crime in a court first. A restraining order doesn't meet that bar. All you need for a restraining order is a Karen ex-wife.

Also, I am surprised he didn't bring up the "terrorist watch list" thing. This was a talking point for a long time. "Hey, if you're on the terrorist watch list, you don't need no gun, pal." Yeah, the problem is that such watch lists are compiled totally in secret by some bureaucrat sitting at a desk using totally subjective criteria. I think the bigger consideration for Biden, though, was too many Muslims are on these lists and he doesn't want to bring any attention to that.
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:37 am to
Insert ghostbusters proton pack joke here.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
8945 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:38 am to
This is just positioning for future efforts.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5957 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:39 am to
quote:

close FBI loophole background check; stated currently if FBI background check is not completed after 3 days, then the gun can be sold to buyer without the background check.


This one is very dangerous (and that's not at all what it means).It's not a loophole. It's a way to keep the FBI from basically saying we don't want to do our job so you can't have a gun.

It is not hyperbole to say that this is, in essence, a possible way to block ALL gun sales by just doing nothing.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 1:10 pm
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61194 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:42 am to
Criminals are quaking in their boots now, knowing that they will have to abide by these executive actions

Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12941 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:42 am to
like any of these actions would actually have any affect in shootings
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:43 am to
The shootings will continue for 100 years.....unless you keep the thugs and retards out of human circulation, which is impossible.

The Second Amendment saves lives every day, and nobody discusses this!
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