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re: Help me understand Civil Asset Forfeiture
Posted on 8/1/17 at 11:12 am to 225bred
Posted on 8/1/17 at 11:12 am to 225bred
So let me paint a picture for you:
You are driving cross country with $10,000 cash because you want to. It is no ones business but your own why you have that much cash. And as an American citizen, you should have the right to carry as much money as you'd like. A cop pulls you over. He thinks to himself, "This isn't normal for someone to have this much cash. This person might be up to something illegal." So he takes your cash. Now it's the police departments. Good luck getting it back. This does happen. And it's why civil asset forfeiture is really fricked up. No court involvement. Just theft. And the police can use that money for just about anything. Including a margarita machine for their Christmas party. It happens.
You are driving cross country with $10,000 cash because you want to. It is no ones business but your own why you have that much cash. And as an American citizen, you should have the right to carry as much money as you'd like. A cop pulls you over. He thinks to himself, "This isn't normal for someone to have this much cash. This person might be up to something illegal." So he takes your cash. Now it's the police departments. Good luck getting it back. This does happen. And it's why civil asset forfeiture is really fricked up. No court involvement. Just theft. And the police can use that money for just about anything. Including a margarita machine for their Christmas party. It happens.
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 11:26 am to 225bred
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If a drug dealer gets popped, shouldn't the law be able to confiscate all his money, property, and belongings?
Yep...and you could make a case for the Clinton foundations
Posted on 8/1/17 at 12:08 pm to AggieDub14
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So let me paint a picture for you:
You are driving cross country with $10,000 cash because you want to. It is no ones business but your own why you have that much cash. And as an American citizen, you should have the right to carry as much money as you'd like. A cop pulls you over. He thinks to himself, "This isn't normal for someone to have this much cash. This person might be up to something illegal." So he takes your cash. Now it's the police departments. Good luck getting it back. This does happen. And it's why civil asset forfeiture is really fricked up. No court involvement. Just theft. And the police can use that money for just about anything. Including a margarita machine for their Christmas party. It happens.
Don't forget the actual pigs (cops are one thing, pigs are another) with card scanners (credit/debit) on their cellphones/PC in unit that pull people over and, for no other reason than a cash grab, they confiscate their money that is not even on their "suspects" person. They do it without evidence of a crime even (tail light out, license plate light out, the ever popular crossing lane dividing line).
Saw some 20/20 type show a couple years ago about it happening along I-10 in La.. Goes on other places too from stories.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 12:58 pm to 225bred
1. You get arrested for alleged drug trafficking
2. All your assets get seized, even those not tied to drug money
3. Assets are distributed to law enforcement officials as a bonus incentive for cracking down on drugs
4. If found innocent, your assets may already be gone/spent and you must go through a lengthy lawsuit to attempt to get your losses back
2. All your assets get seized, even those not tied to drug money
3. Assets are distributed to law enforcement officials as a bonus incentive for cracking down on drugs
4. If found innocent, your assets may already be gone/spent and you must go through a lengthy lawsuit to attempt to get your losses back
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:12 pm to 225bred
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EDIT: Slow, I read your posts after my initial response and you addressed my questions here, so disregard.
Thank you!
anytime
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:11 pm to 225bred
Civil Asset Forfeiture is just about a controversial legal process in which law enforcement officers take assets from persons suspected of involvement with the crime or illegal activity charging in the form of money. For Solving this issue we should consult a good Lawyer like Ohanian Legal who will give the assurance try to give the best justice.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 1:03 am to 225bred
Grand theft-cop.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 1:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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Must be BOTH A) proven guilty & B) the items or money seized must be proven to be related to some illegal activity. If both can be proven, then I have absolutely no problem with it.
you're a true patriot
If I'm not mistaken, this may be one of the most unanimously agreed upon threads in a long time. People on vastly different spots on the political spectrum all agreeing on an issue. Common ground.
Maybe we can start with the concept of property rights and due process and work from there.
It brings up the question… if these people from all over the country with vastly different views all agree on something, why in the hell is DC soing the exact opposite and getting away with it?
Posted on 8/11/17 at 1:33 am to AggieDub14
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This does happen.
Louisiana has a reputation for it around the country.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:52 am to MrLarson
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Getting stopped and having 5k in cash and you can't tell the police where you got it and they take it from you because they claim it was from something nefarious. You have to sue them to get it back in which you will never get all of it back.
And there in lies the problem. I've heard of several instances where property/money was seized and the victims were innocent. One involved a man taking $75k in cash for the down payment on a restaurant deal, was pulled over for a traffic violation and it took a lawyer and 6 months to get his money back.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 7:13 am to 225bred
I watched an episode of Cops recently where they were running a sting and busting people for buying marijuana.
But they didn't just write a ticket to these marijuana buyers, they arrested them and said they were seizing their vehicles.
It was so effed up.
But they didn't just write a ticket to these marijuana buyers, they arrested them and said they were seizing their vehicles.
It was so effed up.
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