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re: Help me under the illegal immigration debate

Posted on 7/4/24 at 6:26 am to
Posted by Honkus
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Posted on 7/4/24 at 6:26 am to
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
11680 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 6:30 am to
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I've had the pleasure of meeting wonderful people from Haiti, Afghanistan, Nigeria, and Sudan who have fled violence in their home countries. I can't help but wonder why America's processing of citizenship applications is so slow to help these people.


Tell them to not come directly to America first. The process is simple under Brandon:
Step one: Fly to a Mexican Border town.
Step two: Sneak into the US.
Step three: Get caught by the border patrol.
Step four: Apply for asylum and get a court date next decade.
Step five: Get all the government benefits afforded the migrants in free living areas, free food, free cell phones, etc.
Step six: Get a work permit and start paying taxes.
Step seven: Marry an American and eventually get your status and asylum dates pushed up to where now you can enter the nationalization process to become a US citizen. It still could take years if not decades to get to that point.
Step seven: After going through the slow morass that is the US government, you learn that Democrats are the ones who put you through all of that and taxes are are too high, you vote Republican.


Maybe once Brandon is gone. The border will get locked down making this path null and void which it should be. And future presidents kick those out who tried to come in this route.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48202 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 6:36 am to
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My great grandfather immigrated from Ireland by way of Ellis Island. What's the difference?

Your ggfather got here and there was an expanse of land which had never even been seen by anyone except native Americans - there was an absolute need for new people to populate the nation and produce an economy which could survive and thrive. He got absolutely ZERO assistance from the government - in fact, he probably had to EARN his 'ticket' to get here - either by having he money to pay for his trip - or to enter an agreement to work for someone a predetermined amount to time to pay for the expense.

IF he had no resources or lack of commitment - he would have never had the capacity to even set foot here. BTW - "indentured servitude" is one step above absolute slavery. IF he fell on hard times, he would have been at the mercy of his family or neighbors for subsistence. There was ZERO federal or state 'benefits' - people were expected to 'pull their own weight' - CHARITY was dependent on the morality of the ordinary people in his community.

THAT was the spirit that created the America which you now enjoy the benefits of. And YOU are totally disinterested or unlearned in the history that you INHERITED by merely being the product of superior people in your ancestry and the benevolence of their individual neighbors.

NOW - we have unprincipled 'leaders' who are merely interested in their OWN advancement and are takin advantage of their current position to use OTHER PEOPLE's MONEY to finance stuff that would be paid for by others.

There is NOTHING wrong with accepting immigrants - IF they are willing to come here and CONTRIBUTE to the overall society - and there has been a system set up to do just that - the country established a SYSTEM to bring in as many immigrants and the nation could accept who would be a CONTRIBUTION to the future rather than another DRAG on the future.

I could write volumes of reasons and conditions for all this history - but your ignorance of the topic is so indicative of the ROT our youth has been saddled with in its education that I fear I am wasting my time.

your very question denotes either gross ignorance or a desire to just MOCK the angst that TRUE American patriots feel when they see DELIBERATE efforts to overturn the five centuries of sweat, tears, and toil of our ancestors.

Only the consummate ignorance or the amoral acceptance of tyranny or the desire to destroy the accomplishments of centuries of hard work for their own benefit can describe your condition.

Try talking to mature adults and put in some time understanding the history of civilization and make your own observations.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87832 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 6:37 am to
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They're not breaking the law by applying for US citizenship?


quote:

LSU Grad 2021


I weep for my alma mater. I truly do.
Posted by Tasseo
Member since Feb 2024
3252 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 6:39 am to
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What's so wrong with people moving to a new country? I don't get it.

My great grandfather immigrated from Ireland by way of Ellis Island. What's the difference?

75% of the world's population wants to move to this nation. Do you think they all should without question?

There is a reason why those people want to move here, but the ignorant like yourself can't understand how that destroys the host and reason for it. Slow drip + assimilation helps keep the host healthy.

Only reason we are having a national self populating issue is because you and your ilk push immorality via abortion, homosexuality and the destruction of the nuclear family. Ie...you democrats are the most evil anti-American peoples of all time.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 6:39 am to
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Hi y'all! I'm reaching out to ask for your advice on understanding the border crisis better. I've had the pleasure of meeting wonderful people from Haiti, Afghanistan, Nigeria, and Sudan who have fled violence in their home countries. I can't help but wonder why America's processing of citizenship applications is so slow to help these people. Why do people demonize them for trying to pursue the American dream? Any insights or perspectives you can share would be greatly appreciated!


They lied. They were simply criminals. You believed them because you’re likely a gullible overly empathetic white female who feels guilty for not being born in a country full of subhuman filth who are illegally coming here & who you feel empathy for because they know you can be easily manipulated.

The reason I detest you, much more than the illegal migrant, is because your ignorant misguided empathy will lead to the country my ancestors built turning into the 3rd world subhuman filths shithole country if you aren’t stopped.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48202 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 6:44 am to
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They're not breaking the law by applying for US citizenship?

o good gawd - you cannot be that stupid.

OF COURSE they are breaking the law by NOT appearing at a BORDER CONTROL POINT and applying for US citizenship

THAT is available to everyone - and there are THOUSANDs of people who are in that process on NATURALIZATION - and THOSE people are being IGNORED for the benefit of MILLIONs of FREELOADERs who are just coming here because the DEMOCRATs are needing more illegal VOTEs for their next election.

good gawd man - you are a clueless piece of trash. Get an education - and don't tell anyone you have a 'degree from LSU' - you are an embarrassment.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48202 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 6:53 am to
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I would send them all to Idaho just to make the far right people in Idaho cry like babies haha lol

Wah wah they took my coal mining job boohoo haha

Aw shite - I wish I'd read this far before wasting my time with you -

get the fukc out of our presence - you stinking piece of shite.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32511 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 6:54 am to

Member since Jun 2024
31 posts


Totally legit
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10728 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:00 am to
There are so many negatives from illegal immigration I not going to list them all. First of all I'll tell you why the democrats are letting them in. There has been a steady population and voter registration decline in democratic areas due to people moving to Republican states and abortion killing their babies. They are on the brink losing congressional seats and losing elections. This is their way to diluted Republican voters.

The affect illegal imigation has on the country is we are spending billions on people than have no skills to contribute to society. Women and children sex trafficking has increased 10x, child porn has increased 10x, fentanyl is killing 1000s of people. There is not one positive from illegal immigration.



This post was edited on 7/4/24 at 7:02 am
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
58020 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:14 am to
Hi, tarzana.

Please go back to the OT.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48202 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:35 am to
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There are many areas in the country that are set aside for the Indians to live in the culture that they desire. How many immigrants are allowed to join those reservations?



Now THAT is an angle I have not thought of yet -
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22974 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 7:43 am to
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What's so wrong with people moving to a new country?


Nothing if the new country wants them there.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
58020 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 8:00 am to
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quote:

What's so wrong with people moving to a new country?
Nothing if the new country wants them there.


And are moving to that new country legally.
And are willing to acclimate to that new country's culture.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59343 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 8:05 am to
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Nothing if the new country wants them there.


How is it determined if a whole country wants someone there?
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
28066 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 8:05 am to
Because they are spending every dollar they have to get here then show up broke expecting us to provide Food, Shelter, Medical, Money on and on.

We have enough MF'ers milking the welfare system already.

And that's the half trying, the other half are criminals, drug runners, psychopaths.
Posted by 5WFSHR
Montgomery, AL
Member since Apr 2024
2619 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 8:12 am to
Dems already shipped in the illegals to vote. Case closed. They are attacking our citizens. FJB
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3262 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 8:13 am to
quote:

I'm reaching out to ask for your advice on understanding the border crisis better. I've had the pleasure of meeting wonderful people from Haiti, Afghanistan, Nigeria, and Sudan who have fled violence in their home countries. I can't help but wonder why America's processing of citizenship applications is so slow to help these people. Why do people demonize them for trying to pursue the American dream?

Any insights or perspectives you can share would be greatly appreciated!


To answer your question, you should answer these questions.
1. Why do countries have borders?
2. What would the world look like if there were no borders?
3. What is the purpose of countries having laws?
4. What would the world look like if there were no borders and no laws?
5. Who would run a world with no borders?
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22974 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 8:14 am to
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How is it determined if a new country wants someone there?


Each country has a process that a person has to go through to enter and stay legally. The visa application process weeds out undesirables. Those who enter legally and screw up by committing illegal acts can have their visa revoked.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22372 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 8:15 am to
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I've had the pleasure of meeting wonderful people from Haiti, Afghanistan, Nigeria, and Sudan who have fled violence in their home countries


I noticed you did not say any from Mexico or Central America. I have met many nice people from there too but the flood of illegals over the border has swamped the immigration system and those who may have tried legally or have otherwise compelling stories for asylum are just forced to the back of the line.

The US used to have a pretty good capacity for taking in immigrants from the hotspots around the world but the open souther border has changed that. Imagine just throwing your front and back door open and letting anyone who wants to come in and use your home/Apt. It basically will become a crack house without some order to the process

Another point is that the open border is an openly stated goal of the Dems to dilute the Caucasions in the US for the purpose of adding to the Dem voter rolls.
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