Hegel, Wokeism, and the Dialectical Faith of Leftism

It boils down to ideological differences that have been around for centuries.

Aurelius chose to sleep in an uncomfortable bed while Seneca swam in the freezing river. Both were all too aware of the benefits of adding discomfort to ones life.

The above view, is realist, the view that the furnace of affliction, is necessary for growth and that life itself is filled with tragedy.

Thomas Sowell describes the opposing view as the vision of the anointed, the utopian view that man can be fixed.

Either way, seeing the dialectic, totalist views, purposivism, and the parallels to religious fanaticism is important.

The cold hard truth is that as long as ignorance and vice abound, tyranny is served, when virtue and knowledge reappear, liberty springs forth.

The man hell bent on self destruction, cannot be saved from himself, and when we recognize this simple truth, we will allow personal choice to have its just consequences.

Great post btw.
I'll give him a listen, been a few years since I read the communist manifesto while researching hegel.

To a young mind the offer of paradise is so alluring, and unfortunately since the 50's children haven't been taught to see logical fallacies, or how to critically think, but rather have been taught what to think.

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Hegel, Wokeism, and the Dialectical Faith of Leftism

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You don't know what any of those words mean.

Negative liberty utopianism..

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You don't know what any of those words mean.

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I sure do, and you might to if you listen to the podcast

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I'm listening to it now. 4 hours is a long time. However, "wokeism" implies "wokeists". I don't know any wokeists and haven't heard of any. In fact, the only people that use the term "woke" are right wingers. Furthermore, the term is only used to disparage others.

TLDR; you'd be better off listening to a podcast about logic.

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It's just not true that the term woke originated with the opponents of the set of theories and movements that can be described as woke. What is true is that the word has been effectively turned against and acquired well deserved negative connotations, but I refuse to stop using it because the people trying to push these ideas into society with the goal of destroying and recreating it on their tired, bankrupt, warmed over Marxism would prefer that I don't.

As for logic, I've had all that in my liberal arts undergraduate education. I think it's kinda funny you would recommend logic to me in your knee jerk defense of the radical leftists when one of the tenants of the woke is an abandonment of logic in favor of experiential methods of knowing, which can only have validity based on your lived experience (this creating a special class of deeper knowledge, ie gnosticism)

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Define woke.

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sure, I'll just quote directly from the same guy who did the podcast, James Lindsay, to be consistent, and this is a very comprehensive definition anyway, including the history of the term so you can stop pretending is not a thing.

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In brief, “woke” means having awakened to having a particular type of “critical consciousness,” as these are understood within Critical Social Justice. To first approximation, being woke means viewing society through various critical lenses, as defined by various critical theories bent in service of an ideology most people currently call “Social Justice.” That is, being woke means having taken on the worldview of Critical Social Justice, which sees the world only in terms of unjust power dynamics and the need to dismantle problematic systems. That is, it means having adopted Theory and the worldview it conceptualizes.

Under “wokeness,” this awakened consciousness is set particularly with regard to issues of identity, like race, sex, gender, sexuality, and others. The terminology derives from the idea of having been awakened (or, “woke up”) to an awareness of the allegedly systemic nature of racism, sexism, and other oppressive power dynamics and the true nature of privilege, domination, and marginalization in society and understanding the role in dominant discourses in producing and maintaining these structural forces. Furthermore, being woke carries the imperative to become a social activist with regard to these issues and problems, again, on the terms set by Critical Social Justice. This—especially for white people—is to include a lifelong commitment to an ongoing process of self-reflection, self-criticism, and (progressive) social activism in the name of Theory and Social Justice (see also, antiracism).

Historically, the term “woke” has been used somewhat extensively in slang throughout the twentieth century to refer to a state of awareness of the discrimination, disenfranchisement, and mistreatment of blacks, especially in America, and it is in that sense always had some connection to the critical mode of thought in the New Left. (See also, black liberation, liberation theology, false consciousness, and consciousness raising.) The term is alleged to have gained its first contemporary connotation in 2008 with the Erykah Badu song “Master Teacher,” in which Badu envisions and dreams of a world of racial equality and then advises genuine activism with the admonishment that listeners should “stay woke.” The term developed from there, particularly via black activism on Twitter.

The term then gained particular significance and tied itself to the contemporary Social Justice movement in the mid 2010s as it became an activist watchword of the Black Lives Matter movement. There, say following the police shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, the phrase “stay woke” took on the very specific meaning of being aware of the reality (according to critical race Theory) of systemic racism in American society that activists blamed for being at the root of the incident. This has, in turn, led to the term being nearly synonymous with having a critical consciousness as provided through critical race Theory, although it has been appropriated through intersectional thought to apply to other issues of identity relevant to postcolonial Theory, queer Theory, feminism, and so on. It has since expanded and memefied further and is now seen from the outside as being wholly synonymous with having been converted to a Social Justice critical consciousness. As such, “wokeness” often refers to both critical Social Justice doctrine and the state of having accepted it.

In that “wokeness” has become a term directly associated with the critical consciousness provided by applied postmodern Theories, especially critical race Theory (see also, postmodern, Marxian, Neo-Marxism, Post-Marxism, and Cultural Marxism). As such, it is centrally concerned with being aware of the intersecting systems of racism, sexism, and other forms of alleged societal oppression and analyzing these in terms of privilege. This is most often done, under woke consciousness, by engaging in discourse analysis, especially using close reading, which enables racism (or other systemic bigotries) that are assumed to be present in all situations to then be read into them. This is then treated as proof of the systemic problem that was assumed to exist in the first place (see also, mask). Being “woke” would entail being able to “see” the intersecting web of dominance and oppression that arises from the function of privilege in society and taking up efforts to challenge, disrupt, subvert, deconstruct, or overthrow the existing system in the attempt to bring those unjust intersecting power dynamics to an end (see also, Matrix of Domination).

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If only it started with Hegel. Unfortunately it's even older.

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before Hegel it's was all thought exercise. Kant's dialectic for example was purely a thought exercise to refine ideas. Hegel is the one who decided the concept should be brought into and applied in the real world, to disastrous results every since

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I'm listening to it now. 4 hours is a long time. However, "wokeism" implies "wokeists". I don't know any wokeists and haven't heard of any. In fact, the only people that use the term "woke" are right wingers. Furthermore, the term is only used to disparage others. TLDR; you'd be better off listening to a podcast about logic.

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I assure right wingers weren’t the ones calling themselves woke.

This word has been around for a while. You are now just spewing unintelligent nonsense because it is seen as negative because the woke showed their asses.

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I'm listening to it now.

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And then the chaos agents, bots and trolls descend on all social media channels. Sowing doubt to any response unlike their own.