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re: Heather Heyer's mom lost a loved one at Sandy Hook too, according to 8chan.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:02 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:02 pm to buckeye_vol
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The FBI theory? You argued that it was the father, and that was a fact, because they looked alike and his actions weren't perfectly proper with his gear.
When presented a far more logical alternative, you decide it's a theory, and want some level of proof that is outside any the realm of reason
He's effectively using the prove there is no God argument and if you can't prove there isn't one then there is one
That's not how this shite works. That's not how it works at all
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:04 pm to IceTiger
quote:I admit that the evidence is so overwhelming that the only logical conclusion is that he's a male.
So you admit, it isn't proveable?
You could argue nothing is provable, even our physical world, Maybe when our own existence (I think therefore, maybe I still don't exist).
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:07 pm to ShortyRob
It's also funny because these conspiracy idiots always have to focus on very very tight windows. They will never ever even try to discuss the magnitude of the event they are claiming was pulled off
This stupid frick wants me to explain the walking patterns of an individual cop but wants no part of discussing the sheer magnitude of cover-up required to pull this off
It's like that every time. And they also use the logical stupidity that because government has lied to you that all accusations of government lying to you are true.
But he'll this isn't even just government lying to me. This is a conspiracy that requires an entire fricking town to lie to me and keep it quiet!
ice doesn't find that strange at all but he's really focused on walking patterns. Primarily because he's a fricking idiot
This stupid frick wants me to explain the walking patterns of an individual cop but wants no part of discussing the sheer magnitude of cover-up required to pull this off
It's like that every time. And they also use the logical stupidity that because government has lied to you that all accusations of government lying to you are true.
But he'll this isn't even just government lying to me. This is a conspiracy that requires an entire fricking town to lie to me and keep it quiet!
ice doesn't find that strange at all but he's really focused on walking patterns. Primarily because he's a fricking idiot
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:07 pm to ShortyRob
quote:But he only deals in facts. But I don't know if facts can exist in the reality necessary to justify the arguments.
He's effectively using the prove there is no God argument and if you can't prove there isn't one then there is one
That's not how this shite works. That's not how it works at all
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:13 pm to ShortyRob
Since we're focused on things that someone might find strange like hatchback cars and how a person walks let's talk about other strange things
Sandy Hook Elementary had almost 400 students. A rough guess is that they probably had about 20 teachers plus staff
Assuming a nominal divorce rate let's say that this means we're dealing with about 600 in-home parents.
I don't know what the size of the police force there is but it's a small town. Let's call it 20. Number of press on the scene? A lot
All of these people would have to know that the children claim to be dead aren't. And this is before we get to all of the people that would have been required to pull it off in the first place. All of whom would have had to also be quiet.
And I'm almost certainly leaving out a lot of shite you have to believe to think watching a video of a guy you think looks like one of the people walking in a manner that you can't decipher trumps all of that
If someone believes that then they are so stupid that I'm genuinely surprised they know how to use this website
Sandy Hook Elementary had almost 400 students. A rough guess is that they probably had about 20 teachers plus staff
Assuming a nominal divorce rate let's say that this means we're dealing with about 600 in-home parents.
I don't know what the size of the police force there is but it's a small town. Let's call it 20. Number of press on the scene? A lot
All of these people would have to know that the children claim to be dead aren't. And this is before we get to all of the people that would have been required to pull it off in the first place. All of whom would have had to also be quiet.
And I'm almost certainly leaving out a lot of shite you have to believe to think watching a video of a guy you think looks like one of the people walking in a manner that you can't decipher trumps all of that
If someone believes that then they are so stupid that I'm genuinely surprised they know how to use this website
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:14 pm to IceTiger
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you have nothing on him putting his gear on the ground,
I don't understand the significance of this. I'm not swat but I wore similar gear in the army and I put my shite on the ground all the time.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:18 pm to buckeye_vol
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You argued that it was the father,
I did, I contend that it is the same man, and video of the Dad and the SWAT guy are the same...
The part where you believe it more logical that an FBI guy act like this or an alternative, say like an extra in a movie behave like the following, I take issue with:
Which is more likely to dress tactically AT THE SCENE OF THE CRIME..FBI or another?
Which is more likely to not secure their weapon AT THE SCENE OF A CRIME...FBI or another?
Which is more likely to use a small hatchback station wagon...FBI or another?
Which is more likely to join the local SWAT, dressed in olive drab, vs. Black...FBI or another?
Which is more likely to march back and forth with two others at the crime scene...FBI or another?
Which is more likely to carry rifles on duty...FBI or another...im sure some do...? But it's more likely that FBI would have to check out AR-15s and bolt action sniper rifles (?)
Hey, I could be completely wrong, but this sort of thing happens in the parking lot outside of exercises...
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:21 pm to IceTiger
Again, let's just answer all of those questions in your favor for the sake of argument... where does that leave us overall regarding the truth about Sandy Hook? Don't tell me to google it or link me to a 15 minute YouTube video.
You deal in facts and you have no problem writing lengthy responses. So use some facts and write me a response detailing where the fake FBI agent/SWAT dad/ crisis actor fits in the overall narrative that Sandy Hook was a hoax.
I think we all thank you in advance.
You deal in facts and you have no problem writing lengthy responses. So use some facts and write me a response detailing where the fake FBI agent/SWAT dad/ crisis actor fits in the overall narrative that Sandy Hook was a hoax.
I think we all thank you in advance.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:26 pm to GumboPot
They look very similar, but without a DNA test to prove it, I remain skeptical. PT detectives, let's get some DNA swabs. 
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:28 pm to ShortyRob
quote:And realistically the entire town, school district, and anybody even closely related to either would have to be involved. Plus with social media, family history, educational history, tax records, the level of coordination, cooperation, and resources necessary would be ridiculous. And the number of people that would be able to blow it open, would be even more ridiculous.
Assuming a nominal divorce rate let's say that this means we're dealing with about 600 in-home parents.
Yet, given all of that, they couldn't bother to hire enough crisis actors.
And what was the purpose? Gun control? That didn't happen. So not only was all of that for nothing, they are apparently capable of the conspiracy, but not capable of anything else.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:31 pm to buckeye_vol
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And realistically the entire town, school district, and anybody even closely related to either would have to be involved. Plus with social media, family history, educational history, tax records, the level of coordination, cooperation, and resources necessary would be ridiculous. And the number of people that would be able to blow it open, would be even more ridiculous.
Yet, given all of that, they couldn't bother to hire enough crisis actors.
And what was the purpose? Gun control? That didn't happen. So not only was all of that for nothing, they are apparently capable of the conspiracy, but not capable of anything else.
Game, set, match. But I still hope IceTiger responds to my post.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:32 pm to northshorebamaman
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I don't understand the significance of this. I'm not swat but I wore similar gear in the army and I put my shite on the ground all the time.
What would happen if your weapon were unsecured?
Ammo?
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:34 pm to IceTiger
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Hey, I could be completely wrong,
You might be but I can't tell because for the life of me I can't figure out what you're asking in most of that post.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:36 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
And realistically the entire town, school district, and anybody even closely related to either would have to be involved. Plus with social media, family history, educational history, tax records, the level of coordination, cooperation, and resources necessary would be ridiculous
Yeah, David Wheeler and his wife were actors, Wheeler himself was in some crappy gun control movie back in the early 2000s...
Now he's a gun control lobbyist
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:36 pm to IceTiger
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What would happen if your weapon were unsecured?
Depends. Define unsecured, or better yet, a screenshot or something.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:36 pm to boosiebadazz
I'll have to read this thread later on tonight when I have time. Looks like it got pretty good.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:38 pm to northshorebamaman
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You might be but I can't tell because for the life of me I can't figure out what you're asking in most of that post.
He said it was an FBI guy...it was his logical conclusion...
I argued it is illogical for an FBI guy at the crime scene to act like that, with that equipment, just sitting in the parking lot
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:41 pm to IceTiger
Again, never been a cop, but from an army perspective, nothing seems unusual to me. I carried my gear in my car and set things down, including my weapon, all the time.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:42 pm to boosiebadazz
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Game, set, match. But I still hope IceTiger responds to my post
this video shows the shots of wheeler not wearing his helmet right
You have to sit through some of it to get there...
It happens several times. 17:23.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 4:43 pm to GumboPot
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I'll have to read this thread later on tonight when I have time. Looks like it got pretty good.
40% funny, 60% scary that guys like IceTiger walk amongst us in society.
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