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re: Headline: Protester dies hours after being hit hit by wrong-way Seattle freeway driver

Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:50 pm to
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As I said earlier, blocking multiple lanes on a blind curve while wearing black was exceptionally stupid by the protesters.


Not only stupid, but illegal. Whatever the actions of the driver leading up to the deadly collision, I fail to understand how any rational person can argue against the reality that the protesters’ own actions contributed to the deadly accident.

The primary reason the two women were hit is because those protesters were illegally blocking a major interstate highway. Whatever criminal charges are filed over the woman’s death, this illegal protest was the initial factor in the chain of events that resulted in the fatal accident.
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 5:55 pm
Posted by mtntiger
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 6:01 pm to
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The primary reason the two women were hit is because those protesters were illegally blocking a major interstate highway.


If the interstate was indeed closed, then what was point of them being there? If it's closed and no cars are going through, then their "protest" may as well have been in the forest.

Very little of this story makes sense.

It truly boggles my mind that protesters were being allowed on an interstate. Washington itself has some culpability here if you ask me.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 6:11 pm to
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It truly boggles my mind that protesters were being allowed on an interstate. Washington itself has some culpability here if you ask me.


No argument from me on that point. The entire political leadership in Seattle seems committed to performing ritual hara-kiri as a functioning and viable city:

VIDEO: Seattle is Dying....

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ABC-KOMO's Eric Johnson explores the impact the drug and homelessness problem is having on our city and possible solutions in "Seattle is Dying."

This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 6:17 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:17 pm to
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According to you (and what I am seeing in the pics upon review), the AP posted the image of the wrong on-ramp. That MAY make things confusing. Just saying.
When did they post that? All I've ever seen is the pic of the incident site.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:19 pm to
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It most certainly does. The point here is there were several news outlets that reported that the driver was going the wrong way when the accident occurred. As more information has become available, that clearly was not the case.

Likewise, there were several initial reports that indicated the accident itself occurred as a result of the driver driving the wrong way up an exit ramp. It now appears the driver may have accessed the highway by going the wrong way on an exit ramp but the accident itself occurred as the driver was driving in the correct direction on the freeway. Indeed, the direct cause of the accident happened because the driver apparently swerved to avoid parked vehicles blocking the travel lanes.
All you're doing is telling me my own story which I've been clear on the entire time.

YOU claimed that the media claimed that the protesters were "only trying to block a ramp, but that they were clearly trying to block all lanes". This is non-sensical - and was non-sensical when you first said it. And now you are just ignoring the fact that you said it and talking about other irrelevant nonsense.

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Putting that all aside, the protesters who illegally accessed and illegally blocked the highway are as much to blame for the woman’s death as the driver of the car. As both a legal and moral matter, those protesters should face some degree of culpability for their contribution to the death and serious injury of their fellow protestors.
Here is how I would order the culpability:

1 - mayor
2 - driver
3 - protesters
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:20 pm to
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Not only stupid, but illegal. Whatever the actions of the driver leading up to the deadly collision, I fail to understand how any rational person can argue against the reality that the protesters’ own actions contributed to the deadly accident.
Of course they contributed. Who is arguing against that?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:20 pm to
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It truly boggles my mind that protesters were being allowed on an interstate. Washington itself has some culpability here if you ask me.
19 nights in a row! I think you are right.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:21 pm to
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The first image below is a day-light photo of the accident scene posted by the AP.


This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 7:22 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:22 pm to
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VIDEO: Seattle is Dying....
The sad thing about that whole thing is that the news guy who put that together was as right as right can be...and yet now it seems like the city is even farther away from making some of the reforms he suggested.

They need to kick that crazy socialist chick off the city council. It truly is absurd. The city is home to literally some of the most successful companies of all time, has immense human capital and yet - they can't even rub sticks together to make fire.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:25 pm to
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YOU claimed that the media claimed that the protesters were "only trying to block a ramp, but that they were clearly trying to block all lanes". This is non-sensical - and was non-sensical when you first said it. And now you are just ignoring the fact that you said it and talking about other irrelevant nonsense.




Once again, many initial media reports indicated that the accident occurred because the driver was going the wrong way on the highway or had hit the protesters while illegally driving up an exit ramp. That is not what happened.

Now whether these reports were intentionally misleading or not, such reporting seemed to indicate the deadly accident happened primarily because of some illegal action by the driver. That narrative is false.

The fact the protesters were protesting illegally on the interstate is far from “ irrelevant nonsense.” It is the main contributing factor to why one woman is dead and another is hospitalized.

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