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re: He was just out for a jog!

Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:05 pm to
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:05 pm to
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Totally deserved to be murdered.


No but the accused have a right to due process in the US there Adolf! Furthermore, while the event, all of it, was not good in the slightest, there are reasons charges exist such as manslaughter.
This post was edited on 11/11/21 at 9:06 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125394 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:06 pm to
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You're trying to argue legality, I'm simply stating cause and effect.


Oh. Ok. Yeah. He was shot by an ignorant jackass who was illegally pointing a gun at him and he stupidly tried to take the illegally pointed gun from the jackass.

Totally agree.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465983 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:07 pm to
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He was shot and killed because he reached for a gun, self defense or not.

Well that opportunity only became realized because of the chase.

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You're retarded if you keep claiming he was shot because they thought he may have stolen something.

They brought guns because they thought he stole something. Again, you can't try to isolate each millisecond and pretend it's independent of the whole situation.

They shouldn't have chased him.

They shouldn't have brought guns.

They certainly shouldn't have had guns in close proximity to him when they had no legal right to do so.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
15006 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:07 pm to
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Did he deserve to die for it? Absolutely not.


No, he didn't deserve to die for walking into a unfinished building. But charge a man holding a shotgun on you and I've lost all sympathy.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125394 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:07 pm to
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But charge a man holding a shotgun on you and I've lost all sympathy.


When you remove all context, you predetermine the outcome.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26954 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:09 pm to
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Oh. Ok. Yeah. He was shot by an ignorant jackass who was illegally pointing a gun at him and he stupidly tried to take the illegally pointed gun from the jackass.


Instead of waiting for police to arrive like they wanted because he knew he was a thief on probation for stealing.

Perfect.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125394 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:09 pm to
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he knew he was a thief on probation for stealing.


Link?
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32982 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:09 pm to
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, he didn't deserve to die for walking into a unfinished building. But charge a man holding a shotgun on you and I've lost all sympathy.


It's like you people are purposely ignoring the part where he tried to evade them, turned around, was hit by the vehicle, was trapped between two vehicles and had a gun already drawn on him.

Hard to say he is the aggressor here.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26954 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:10 pm to
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Well that opportunity only became realized because of the chase.


And that opportunity only became realized because he was a thief on probation for stealing casing other people's shite to steal.

There were lots of horrible decisions made on both sides of the isle. Thankfully for Arbery he's not on trial. Unfortunately for Arbery, he's dead.

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They brought guns because they thought he stole something


No, they brought guns because the son had caught the thief on that property two-ish weeks prior, and the thief reached into his waist band and threatened the son and the son left.

In their mind the thief was armed.

So it wasn't only about him potentially stealing, they thought he was a threat.

That fact should have been enough to keep their asses home, but that's why they were armed.
This post was edited on 11/11/21 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32982 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:15 pm to
Did the McMichaels know that at the time?

Anything else is irrelevant.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125394 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:15 pm to
Did they know he was on probation?
Posted by 511
Texas
Member since Oct 2021
138 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:15 pm to
arbery walmart theft.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAfA7OJIH0E

arbery being a dick while parked illegally in a park.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v7o_6uI9R0

arbery was in the house on december 17 at night. travis confronts arbery and calls 911. arbery runs away.

arbery in the house on the day of the shooting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAVzFTnUmNo

arbery was a career criminal.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26954 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:15 pm to
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Did the McMichaels know that at the time?


Irrelevant to the point I'm making.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26954 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:16 pm to
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Did they know he was on probation?


Again, I'm pointing out the cause and effect, not legalities.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125394 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:16 pm to
You’re making points that have nothing to do with the legal case.

Arbery was a pretty useless person. Is that the only point you have?
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
15006 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:18 pm to
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Hard to say he is the aggressor here.


No he wasn't. But he wasn't smart enough to live through it either.
There's a whole lot of people around that just won't follow orders.
They're getting shot by the police and civilians for it too.
Trayvon, lil mike, and this fine scholar among them.
If someone's got a gun on you, as long as they're not trying to get you into a vehicle, do what they say. Especially if they're calling the police.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26954 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:18 pm to
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You’re making points that have nothing to do with the legal case.


I'm commenting on the retards here convinced Arbery was shot because the father/son duo thought he stole something.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32579 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:19 pm to
The video I have watched shows him go around the truck to go after the guy with the gun. He was not cornered. You wrong.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125394 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:19 pm to
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I'm commenting on the retards here convinced Arbery was shot because the father/son duo thought he stole something.


You’re drawing a meaningless distinction.
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