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re: HB596 constitutional carry passes house

Posted on 5/5/21 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 6:48 pm to
I think it would allow for more in depth training possibilities. Maybe now revenue. Don't have to take a general course on everything. Instead pay 40.00 and take an hour long course on state carry law. And maybe another for drawing a handgun safely from the holster. Freely at your leisure. I think an 8hr course actually is a huge deterrent.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 6:49 pm to
And Texas just got their Constitutional Carry...
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43454 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

He means the money that concealed carry permits and renewals generate for the state.


As bloated and crooked as Louisiana is I wouldn’t be surprised if they actually lose money on ccp.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7540 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 7:27 pm to
I assume this is going nowhere with JBE having the power to veto? Correct?
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 7:34 pm to
Except that both bills passed with veto proof majorities.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
10791 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 8:19 pm to
A Louisiana resident shall be required to complete
a sixty-minute online concealed handgun education
course at no cost to the Louisiana resident created
by state police as provided in R.S.40:1379.3.312
in order to carry a concealed handgun in the state of
Louisiana.

Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1386 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 8:42 pm to
How do we get a reciprocal Louisiana permit for travel to other states, similar to Alaska, Vermont and other states that have constitutional carry?
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 8:52 pm to
The current permit process grants you reciprocity.

This bill removes the requirement of a permit of Louisiana residents to carry concealed within the state of Louisiana.

So there would be
1. Concealed carry without permit( Louisiana residents)

2. Concealed carry with permit (Grant's reciprocity to conceal in other states)

3. Open carry no permit

You would have these options.

You would go through the permit process if you travel and would line to conceal across state boarders. If you are comfortable staying in Louisiana, then you just carry concealed as you wish within the state of Louisiana.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

 Louisiana resident shall be required to complete
a sixty-minute online concealed handgun education
course at no cost to the Louisiana resident created
by state police as provided in R.S.40:1379.3.312
in order to carry a concealed handgun in the state of
Louisiana.


The amended bill removes the requirement of the person to get the class and puts the burden on the police to offer the classes free of charge if you want
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1386 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

You would go through the permit process if you travel and would line to conceal across state borders


But what if the new process no longer entails a permit? There can't be a 'process' to grant a Louisiana resident a permit that he doesn't need after this bill passes. Logically and thankfully a permit won't exist to exercise a fundamental right.

Unless that 'process' means clicking through a free 1-hour training course online, then I guess I have to print out my completion certificate and stick it in my pocket (?), this explanation doesn't make sense. There's not going to be a market need for all the 'instructors' and their classes, plus the entire state police infrastructure presumably goes away too, so what does a citizen do if they want to travel?
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 9:11 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43976 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:09 pm to
Congratulations!
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2099 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:11 pm to
This is fantastic news.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:21 pm to
This bill doesn't replace Louisiana state gun laws. It is in addition to what is currently law.

Please read the bill.

A. Louisiana is an open carry state

B. Louisiana is a shall issue concealed carry state with permit that affords reciprocity with other states that honor Louisiana's background check requirement and 8hr firearm education class.

So far, A and B are the law in Louisiana.

What this bill does is ADDs to those two methods of self defense with a firearm.

It ADDs,

C. The option to conceal carry at your leisure within the state of Louisiana at your leisure.

So, it makes concealed and open carry the same BUT let's you buy a license if you want to take it a step further to carry OUTSIDE of Louisiana.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:22 pm to
Its not a new process. You just tuck your preferred caliber of defense under your shirt and go.
Posted by speedosporter
God's Country
Member since Jul 2012
512 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:26 pm to
????
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20043 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:31 pm to
I am so happy it will be easier for thugs to do hoodrat shite!
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:34 pm to
You think this makes things easier for thugs? Trust me, they aren't waiting on this bill to do hoodrat shite.

Might make for less hoodrat shite when they don't know who is and who isn't strapped.
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 9:40 pm
Posted by speedosporter
God's Country
Member since Jul 2012
512 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:41 pm to
Some absolute logic!! Thanks for sharing. They(unlawful pieces of shite) don’t care 100% of the time. Glad true God fearing, American Loving Patriots can do what what God and the Constitution allows them to do!!
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20043 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:43 pm to
quote:

You think this makes things easier for thugs? Trust me, they aren't waiting on this bill to do hoodrat shite

Initial thought: 1. would this allow for thugs to conceal carry freely (assuming over 21 and with no felonies) ... and they ain’t carrying simply to protect themselves. Would this allow thugs to avoid catching an illegal carrying charge? 2. Would this increase safety by having more good guys carrying. Are there many good people out there who want to conceal carry but can’t today because of cost/time of the classes?
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 9:57 pm
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29281 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:44 pm to
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Except that both bills passed with veto proof majorities.


You’re assuming that the Ds that voted for it would vote to override Dumb Bel’s veto....not so fast my friend....
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