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re: Have conservatives figured out that Reagan era trickle down economics is a farce yet?
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:17 pm to Powerman
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:17 pm to Powerman
No such thing as "Trickle Down Economics". Are you trying to tell us you think Say's Law is bullshite?
Also, what you're really complaining about is the Cantillon Effect. This is what happens when you constantly have government deficit spending and creating more currency in the markets. First people to get their hands on it are the ones that benefit most. Nearly everyone else gets fricked. We call it "consumer price inflation". But if you have stocks or property, that inflation is fantastic for you.
Then, there's the issue of the insane regulations we deal w/, which make it cost prohibitive for more competitors to get into the markets and get some of that market share.
Also, what you're really complaining about is the Cantillon Effect. This is what happens when you constantly have government deficit spending and creating more currency in the markets. First people to get their hands on it are the ones that benefit most. Nearly everyone else gets fricked. We call it "consumer price inflation". But if you have stocks or property, that inflation is fantastic for you.
Then, there's the issue of the insane regulations we deal w/, which make it cost prohibitive for more competitors to get into the markets and get some of that market share.
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:17 pm to Powerman
So too fricking stupid to link
Powermullah a clown act.
Powermullah a clown act.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:17 pm to Powerman
And yet this country that relies on “trickle down economics” is the dream destination for the rest of the world. Try harder
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:17 pm to RohanGonzales
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All the shite that "helps the rich" helps me too and I am not "rich".
Can you elaborate on why you think this?
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:18 pm to Powerman
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monumental amount of data that clearly points to wealth not trickling down
You mean like using averages across an entire nation without considering how many people move in and out of each tier?
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:19 pm to jnethe1
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And yet this country that relies on “trickle down economics” is the dream destination for the rest of the world. Try harder
The rest of the world sucks for the most part. I'm not saying there aren't great opportunities here. I'm merely pointing out that trickle down economics appears to be very flawed as it pertains to most of society.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:20 pm to Powerman
Supply side economics was and is a success. Liberals just don't like the fact that a result of this is that, yes, the rich will get richer. It also means that the poor will be richer too if they will work and want a better life.
If liberals would stop subsidizing poverty, maybe we could get somewhere.
If liberals would stop subsidizing poverty, maybe we could get somewhere.
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:20 pm to Powerman
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It seems like there is a monumental amount of data that clearly points to wealth not trickling down.
Well, to start, wealthy people oftentimes own businesses that employ many people. So in that way alone, trickledown is successful.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:20 pm to Powerman
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Maybe you could do some research to refute me
Socialism has killed hundreds of millions of people. Democrats with their new proud socialists aren’t the answer. The answer is free market capitalism, but Trump is moderate and so are most Republicans. Given a choice between Democrat’s socialist dream world and what we have? We made the only choice.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:21 pm to wutangfinancial
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You mean like using averages across an entire nation without considering how many people move in and out of each tier?
As far as income goes yes people move out of different stratifications of income. I actually respect your opinion and follow you on the money talk board. Everything is a moving target so to speak and people and corporations rise and fall into different tiers. I do think my point still stands though.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:22 pm to Powerman
Have you figured out that every spending bill passed by the Communist Party goes directly to the Union leaders and trains to nowhere yet? What stupid statement on your part.
Figured out your trash idea to flood the nation with taco benders hasn’t worked. That population will be as smart as blue collar workers you neglect now.
Figured out your trash idea to flood the nation with taco benders hasn’t worked. That population will be as smart as blue collar workers you neglect now.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:22 pm to Sofaking2
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Socialism has killed hundreds of millions of people
Yes obviously. I'm not advocating socialism so I'll stop you there homie.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:23 pm to Powerman
Have you figured out by now that the lib infested Dem party is doing their absolute best to destroy the US?
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:24 pm to AquaAg84
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Have you figured out by now that the lib infested Dem party is doing their absolute best to destroy the US?
Nothing to do with the topic
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:25 pm to Powerman
That Democrats nonsense is somehow at the feet of Reagan only to the dumbest of core believers
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:25 pm to bluedragon
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Have you figured out that every spending bill passed by the Communist Party goes directly to the Union leaders and trains to nowhere yet? What stupid statement on your part.
Figured out your trash idea to flood the nation with taco benders hasn’t worked. That population will be as smart as blue collar workers you neglect now.
Nothing to do with the topic
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:27 pm to Powerman
It has absolutely everything to deal with the topic lib lab.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:27 pm to Revelator
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Well, to start, wealthy people oftentimes own businesses that employ many people. So in that way alone, trickledown is successful.
One problem. Demand drives employment. No one is going to keep people on the payroll just because they can afford to do it. Have you been an adult during a financial crisis? Did the rich keep people on the payroll just because they could afford to do it? No. That would be throwing money down the toilet. You need demand for employment.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:28 pm to Powerman
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It seems like there is a monumental amount of data that clearly points to wealth not trickling down. Wealth becomes more and more concentrated by the .1% and everything is getting more expensive with a rapidly vanishing middle class. I don't see it ending well.
Its not really a farce, Reagonomics were perfectly fine in its era. Technology has changed the game. Trickle down today doesn't work when you can run companies worth hundreds of billions of dollars with just a handful of people. I made this point earlier today on the tariff thread
As an example, say 5 people create a AI startup, it helps make white collar workers more efficient, and they get bought up by a FAANG for $50b (presumably a stock transaction, like what OpenAI did recently). Sounds great for the economy right?
White collar workers will get axed due to efficiency gains, and relatively very little wealth from those newly minted billionaires will trickle down, the vast majority of it will be retained. This is on paper good for the economy as a whole, in reality it rots the middle class.
What is retained (again presuming stock transaction) is also not getting taxed, until the point gains are realized (as should be the case, taxing unrealized gains is retarded)
Protectionism is necessary to retain jobs as possible, like manufacturing. Libertardians who want to just pound their chest and say "free market" are more likely than not either a teenager, or a boomer who isnt worried about the job market. Society will collapse if a large chunk of the population is unemployable. What do people think is going to happen if 30-50% of the population cant find a job?
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:30 pm to Powerman
I’m not going to advocate for trickle down as the best/attainable economic model but the principles are like most models… They work with a set of parameters that don’t happen consistently because change is just a way to increase the money supply.. capitalism in the broad sense has been the only consistent in modern times but not without.. the ideals just change
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