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Hate crime hoax legislation
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:49 pm
Is there any such thing that anyone's aware of? This could be a "contact your legislator" situation to voice support for a new law covering this. Federally and locally.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:50 pm to davyjones
How about we just use the crimes already on the books
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:50 pm to davyjones
I agree. This bullshite is never prosecuted.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:51 pm to davyjones
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davyjones LSU Fan
North Central, LA
Member since Feb 2019
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Where are you people coming from?
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:51 pm to boosiebadazz
I’m sure you feel the same way about hate crimes in general
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:52 pm to boosiebadazz
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How about we just use the crimes already on the books
The same could (and should) be said about hate crimes. But if they continue to stand apart so should fabricating one.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:53 pm to davyjones
Charge faux hate crimes as hate crimes. Same charges apply.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:53 pm to boosiebadazz
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How about we just use the crimes already on the books
That's a good start. But add a sentencing enhancer to, say, the false police report law already there.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:56 pm to upgrayedd
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Where are you people coming from?
Wokeville
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:56 pm to boosiebadazz
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How about we just use the crimes already on the books
You could say the same thing about Hate Crime legislation
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:56 pm to davyjones
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Is there any such thing that anyone's aware of?
Should be. This kind of shite stirs people up. For all we know, there may have been incidences at school or other places, perpetrated by useful idiots who always believe this kind of crap.
And if you don't believe that, "Hands up, don't shoot!" says hey.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:00 pm to davyjones
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Where are you people coming from?
Wokeville
Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:02 pm to KCT
It's certainly reasonable to be concerned about all sorts of unintended negative consequences. Much moreso than your typical filing false police report.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:04 pm to davyjones
If you’re punishing moreso based on speculative ancillary effects due to the perpetrator’s intent in commiting the crime then I don’t see how you can separate hate crime legislation and punishing hoax hate crimes differently.
I think you just punish the act itself without regard for the underlying motivation for commiting it.
I think you just punish the act itself without regard for the underlying motivation for commiting it.
This post was edited on 2/18/19 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:05 pm to boosiebadazz
I've long held that falsely accusing a man of rape should carry the same penalty that he would have gotten had your lie worked.
Well. Same applies here.
Whatever two white dudes committing this supposed crime would have gotten, Jussie should get.
Well. Same applies here.
Whatever two white dudes committing this supposed crime would have gotten, Jussie should get.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:17 pm to boosiebadazz
Point noted. But id say tht as with any other criminal accusation it would have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Somewhat similar to terroristic threats laws.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:19 pm to davyjones
Filing a false report is filing a false report. No more need for a new crime related thereto than there is for a new crime of murder or assault, based solely upon the identity of the victim.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:21 pm to AggieHank86
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No more need for a new crime related thereto than there is for a new crime of murder or assault, based solely upon the identity of the victim.
Good hero hank.
So we should get rid if hate crime guidelines too, right?
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