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re: Has there been a worse start to a US presidency than Donald Trump's?

Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:23 am to
Posted by LSU12223
Member since Sep 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:23 am to
Barack Obama
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6298 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:25 am to
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Obama passed Obamacare so yes
He was true to his word.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61734 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:26 am to
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The majority of America denies that. Small SEC forums do not.


While massive might be a bit overstated, even Dems are asking that it get "fixed" so there is obviously problems.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61734 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:26 am to
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What would you say were Trump's big 2? A failed EO and a failed stab at repealing the ACA?


For a more comprehensive list:

LINK
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:07 am to
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"Repeal and replace, day one folks".


"If you like your plan, you can keep it." I know you would prefer to go back and forth on this vs the actual issue, which is the overstep of government. But anything the government offers you will likely loosely, if at all, be tied to the truth.

I would argue Trump removing the mandate on day one was far less dishonest than Obama's claim to keeping your plan.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:09 am to
Aside from Carter, Clinton an Obama. Those were brutal.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15970 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:09 am to


Only this guy

Rough start for the "Dealmaker"
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
7461 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:11 am to
The travel ban , was going to be opposed that's why the language was rewritten. The new democratic opposition has zero chance of winning. The 9th circuit dosent enforce the constitution it makes shite up. I don't count that as a loss.


The health care bill is only a glitch. He didn't come up with it Ryan and the house rinos did, now he semi backed it but as much as he speaks he never hammered this bill like he does others leaving him wiggle room and the pie on Ryans face. Why do you think he wanted to force the vote. This in my opinion was a way to make Ryan put up or shut up and he couldn't get the job done.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:11 am to
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While massive might be a bit overstated, even Dems are asking that it get "fixed" so there is obviously problems.


Democrats agree that the bill is imperfect, but that repealing it is harmful and ignorant.

Wanting slight changes to make something better is not the same as wanting to rip it out "root and branch", which you claimed was equivalent.

Be better at English.
Posted by ladyluckUGA
Member since Feb 2014
6432 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:18 am to
>Obamacare wil crash under its own weight
>Support up for Trump +7 in Gallup (41 from 34)
>Repubs more united than ever- all hate Ryan
>Dems continue to slip in polls (2018 rising)
>1 million illegals deported in 60 days
>Gorsuch will be on SCOTUS via nuclear option (thanks Dingy Harry)


h-h-holy shite

I am finally starting to get tired, Mr. President
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9132 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:20 am to
I'm completely satisfied with Trump so far. In 4 years, nobody's going to care about anything except a roaring economy.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93784 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:21 am to
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but he did get shite done.





Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27176 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:26 am to
Let me get this straight...are you saying you wanted a no-bid contract on the Wall? Really...you know the best way to get the best price on the Wall is to bid it right?
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:35 am to
Clinton, almost getting impeached for lying about having sex with Monica.
Obama's Obamacare.
Carter's handling of the Iran incident and his brother making Billy Beer.
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 8:36 am
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33256 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:39 am to
But but he's the deal maker.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61734 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:39 am to
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Democrats agree that the bill is imperfect, but that repealing it is harmful and ignorant.


And you might be right. I'm not sure we, as a nation, needs to go back and forth on health care issues every 4 years. The ACA is here, and for me fixing it might be the best solution. But with a majority in the both Houses and the WH....not to mention haivng the WH in the first 4 years, you would have thought the Dems would have seen the obvious pitfalls the ACA had. Instead they forced it through and now are living with the consequences of their actions.
If the GOP doesn't get their act together, they will have to live with the aftermath of what is going on right now. We desperately need politicians that put the nation first, instead of just trying to get reelected, or furthering their partys ideology.



Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61734 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:41 am to
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even Dems are asking that it get "fixed" so there is obviously problems.


quote:

Wanting slight changes to make something better is not the same as wanting to rip it out "root and branch", which you claimed was equivalent.



Ummmm...mind showing me where i said it needs to be ripped out "root and branch"? Are you getting me confused with someone else? I said there are obvious problems...are you denying that?
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:42 am to
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We desperately need politicians that put the nation first, instead of just trying to get reelected


quote:

Donald Trump had heard enough about policy and process. It was Thursday afternoon and members of the House Freedom Caucus were peppering the president with wonkish concerns about the American Health Care Act—the language that would leave Obamacare’s “essential health benefits” in place, the community rating provision that limited what insurers could charge certain patients, and whether the next two steps of Speaker Paul Ryan’s master plan were even feasible—when Trump decided to cut them off.

"Forget about the little shite," Trump said, according to multiple sources in the room. "Let's focus on the big picture here."

The group of roughly 30 House conservatives, gathered around a mammoth, oval-shaped conference table in the Cabinet Room of the White House, exchanged disapproving looks. Trump wanted to emphasize the political ramifications of the bill's defeat; specifically, he said, it would derail his first-term agenda and imperil his prospects for reelection in 2020. The lawmakers nodded and said they understood. And yet they were disturbed by his dismissiveness. For many of the members, the "little shite" meant the policy details that could make or break their support for the bill—and have far-reaching implications for their constituents and the country.

"We’re talking about one-fifth of our economy," a member told me afterward.


Trump prioritized his image over the "little shite" that matters
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135699 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:43 am to
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Democrats agree that the bill is imperfect, but that repealing it is harmful and ignorant.
So, rather than a bipartisan fix, Dems are for forcing "imperfect" upon the public.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55427 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:43 am to
As much as I can't stand Trump, I am not going to judge him just yet. Especially holding him to a standard of fixing all of Obama's eff ups in 100 days when it is clear the Republicans are going to fight Trump harder than they ever fought Obama.

What is happening in Washington today should be alarming to everyone. The Uniparty is showing themselves to anyone who will pay attention, but since the "left" gets to keep millions on a subsidy today that is set to crash in a few years (again), it is a "victory".

Anyone who pays taxes and works for a living is still losing thanks to these Progressive thieves and their Republican't friends.
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