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re: Has the sugar industry become exploitative in south Louisiana?

Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by shoelessjoe
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:26 pm to
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subMOA


Are you a sugarcane farmer?
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2440 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:06 pm to
What you are advocating is socialism. Price floors, price controls don't work. Your fixation on the environment makes you seem, in addition to your socialist solutions, to be a leftist who is maybe 20 something and thinks that the market is less effective at controlling outputs and production than some government.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:15 pm to
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Are you a sugarcane farmer?



I think he just simps for them.


"Sugarcane farmers are feeding america"!!

whatever would we do without dirt cheap sugar in our diets?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
71109 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:22 pm to
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Please point me to any usda program that does this in the last 30 years



I suppose you have first hand knowledge? I would assume so based on your username.

I have been told that Louisiana farmers have been paid to not plant and it is not super uncommon.

Im not a cane farmer. I just know some.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17344 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:23 pm to
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I think he just simps for them.


People who simp for modern large scale agriculture corporations are pretty pathetic.

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whatever would we do without dirt cheap sugar in our diets?


All of these price controls and government help in the form of special treatment for immigration and environmental issues….is insane. Some of the best farmland in the country and we are scared of imported sugar.

It’s not as insane as cutting gasoline with ethanol to keep the corn growers happy. That is flat out batshit.
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
11191 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:38 pm to
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I think he just simps for them. "Sugarcane farmers are feeding america"!! whatever would we do without dirt cheap sugar in our diets?


Actually he is pretty spot on with his assessments. I was a sugarcane farmer and can vouch for everything he said. Sugar is cheaply priced commodity and get very little help from the government. The price per pound of sugar doesn’t make a huge profit especially if land is leased. Price of equipment, chemicals, fuel, maintenance and labor are very costly when looking at the bottom line.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:50 pm to
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think he just simps for them


Probably not a good idea to get into a battle of wits with submoa, especially when it comes to farming, and doubly so when its cane farming, unless you enjoy having your arse handed to you.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5941 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:59 pm to
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I have been told that Louisiana farmers have been paid to not plant and it is not super uncommon


Well then the program should be easy to find then
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
71109 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:12 pm to
Well if you type this exact prompt into Google it gives you a list of programs. I didnt even fix the spelling.

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are farmers paid by the gocenrment to not plant crops


Which leads you down the rabbit hole of agricultural adjustment act, etc.

Like I said, im not a farmer. I just know some farmers. They act like government money to not plant is common knowledge.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
4664 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:13 pm to
Sounds like he just complains about how hard it is and how people surrounding the farms need to just deal with the environmental effects because they are barely making a go of it as it is.
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
1977 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:20 pm to
They used to burn rice stalks in the Sacramento area when I first moved here. There was an environmental outcry about it back in the late 80s early 90s and the industry figured out another way to get rid of the stalks without burning. As far as I remember, they did it without any state oversight. They just did it on their own.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
71109 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:37 pm to
He seems to know more than the average cane truck driver to me, but good luck.

He makes good points. You shouldnt buy a subdivision house in the middle of a cane field and then bitch about what the cane farmers are doing.

My only gripe with it is that we use really good dirt for a crop that doesnt require really good dirt. Bulldoze some of those shitty solar farms and grow the cane there. Use the good dirt for grass for beef. I want less sugar and more ribeyes.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
4664 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:40 pm to
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want less sugar and more ribeyes.



Sugar could go up in price 1000% and I would hardly notice.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
9079 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:05 pm to
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We have so much grain food that we burn it and pay dump trucks of money to not plant it sometimes.

That can easily change with a widespread crop failure. A nation with too much food has many problems. A nation without enough food has but one problem.
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