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re: Has anyone opposing tariffs and is "of authority" offered a solution?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:08 pm to Riverside
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:08 pm to Riverside
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If tariffs are bad economic policy, why don’t other nations drop their own tariffs?
Domestic protectionism, an irrational stance.
It's a bad policy. The question is why y'all want to copy their bad policies.
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:10 pm to loogaroo
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You don't think we need we need to take a little cash back?
I think we should do all we can to remain the reserve currency, but every so often we need to collect.
In what way do we not "collect"?
We're the #1 economy in the world. No country comes close to our mesh of volume and per capita output (both generally and in manufacturing).
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Domestic protectionism, an irrational stance.
If it’s irrational, then surely the rest of the world would see the wisdom in having no tariffs?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
So I guess we can stop growing food in the US according to you and Milton
We should also encourage other countries to dump all their other products from subsidized industries here
All of us should learn to code or be pi attorneys
We should also encourage other countries to dump all their other products from subsidized industries here
All of us should learn to code or be pi attorneys
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why do you think we won't on our current path, is the question
Because we being fricked over by our trade "partners " and its stupid to depend on our enemies for basic goods and products .
China is our enemy. They will bend the knee.
China as well as all the itshr countries will neet with Trump to work a deal. Whatever that deal, America will no longer be getting fricked over.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:13 pm to Midtiger farm
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All of us should learn to code or be pi attorneys
Divorce lawyers and armchair economists**
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:13 pm to Paddyshack
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No one is conflating the issue.
If you shift to discussing federal deficits when we are discussing trade deficits, a conflation occurred. Well, that's the best case scenario.
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Maybe you’re not smart enough to understand there is a correlation.
In theory, an indirect relation, but it doesn't matter for the conversation, as you're discussing the wrong pole of the purported issue.
If you want to argue we can decrease our trade deficit slightly by reducing government spending (and what we spend universally, which includes imports), then there is a slight difference. That doesn't change the argument you're making about the trade balance. We're just slightly more poor.
The problem is that the redistributive tariff policy makes us even more poor, which is going to shrink GDP and decrease tax receipts. That's not going to help with our federal deficit (it will, in fact, do the opposite).
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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In what way do we not "collect"?
We're the #1 economy in the world. No country comes close to our mesh of volume and per capita output (both generally and in manufacturing).
You are ok with our current level of manufacturing? No flame...genuinely curious.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:15 pm to Midtiger farm
Ideal American according the anti-fair traders here:
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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To what, exactly? The purported problems are iin doubt for many.
Perhaps you should go look at Schumer and Pelosi’s videos about tariffs years ago.
It’s not hard…
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:17 pm to Riverside
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If it’s irrational, then surely the rest of the world would see the wisdom in having no tariffs?
If they want to be irrational and hurt their citizens, it's not our problem.
Again, Friedman
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The tendency to concentrate on the productive side of our lives and to neglect the side of consumption is reinforced by the fact that even for the productive side of our lives the visible effects of tariffs are good, the invisible effects of tariffs are bad, even on the productive side. I have already referred to the steel case. It's perfectly clear that if you restrict the imports of steel, there are some workers in the steel industry who will have jobs they otherwise would not have. The beneficial effects for them of a tariff are perfectly clear. But if we import less steel, foreigners earn fewer dollars. They have fewer dollars to spend in this country. There are people around the country who will not have jobs, not have productive jobs because exports do not develop.
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What about the argument of unfair competition? What about the argument that the Japanese dump their goods below cost? As a consumer, all I can say is the more dumping the better. If the Japanese government is so ill-advised as to tax its taxpayers in order to send to us, at below cost, TV sets and other things, why should we as a nation refuse reverse foreign aid?
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I submit to you that the movement toward having farm price supports is a very shortsighted movement. What will be its results? It can only have the effect of either destroying export markets or requiring the government once again to subsidize exports. If we have a high artificial price at home, which is above the world price, nobody in the world is going to buy American products unless somebody or other sells these to them at the world price. Hence, a system of artificially high domestic agricultural prices necessarily requires a system of government subsidies for the export of wheat abroad.
I submit to you that that's not in the interest of the American consumer, it's not in the interest of the American taxpayer, and in the longer run it is not in the interest of the American farmer.
Y'all really need to read this
Video, for those who don't like to read.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:18 pm to Midtiger farm
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All of us should learn to code or be pi attorneys
Why the histrionics?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:19 pm to Riverside
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If tariffs are bad economic policy, why don’t other nations drop their own tariffs?
They are all a bunch of tax loving central planners.
Argentina was always on the list of "most protectionist countries". They were a mess until someone got elected last year and now is basing his country's economy on freedom. The opposite of what the "others" are doing.
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
You know as much as everyone else on here, which is nothing.
All the whining and crying after a couple of days is ignorant and childish at best.
All the whining and crying after a couple of days is ignorant and childish at best.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:20 pm to loogaroo
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You are ok with our current level of manufacturing? N
We're #2 in the world.
No country has the mesh of output and per capita value. Nobody is close.
The only reason why China has a larger GDP is because of 2 things:
1. Their economy is less developed/advanced than our economy so they can do more lower-level manufacturing that makes no economic sense here. If you want to compete with them here, we have to devolve our economy in kind (and frick that).
2. They have 2.5-3x the population. This is something we cannot fix.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If they want to be irrational and hurt their citizens, it's not our problem
You really think all these countries are acting in their own detriment? Really? Really???
Seems rather hubristic to just assume they are all sabotaging their own economic well being.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:21 pm to DemonKA3268
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Perhaps you should go look at Schumer and Pelosi’s videos about tariffs years ago.
I reject their leftism then and now. What's your point?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:21 pm to geoag58
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You have only been critical of Trump's plans. You have not said what you
Yes he has. SFP says he wants to keep taking it up the arse. He likes letting other countries take advantage of trade with the USA with no retaliation.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:21 pm to DemonKA3268
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You know as much as everyone else on here, which is nothing.
That's great replying to a post where I quoted Milton Friedman
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The only reason why China has a larger GDP is because of 2 things:
1. Their economy is less developed/advanced than our economy so they can do more lower-level manufacturing that makes no economic sense here. If you want to compete with them here, we have to devolve our economy in kind (and frick that).
So we promote slavery in China?
How do we compete?
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 7:23 pm
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